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Hi Betts 77. Thank you so much for that info. I spoke w my husband’s endocrinologist. She approved use of Metformin instead of insulin. My husband was diagnosed w diabetes in Jan. ‘23, same time as pan can. Stage IV. When I read about insulin vs Metformin, it seemed Metformin is better choice. My husband lost much weight after changing diet and no alcohol ( and he needed and wanted to lose it). I believe his blood sugar is well under control now. He wears a glucose meter which is great for tracking. I questioned early on why we got insulin vs Metformin. And, after doing some research, I read excess insulin feeds more glucose to the cancer cells, so that seemed counterproductive! Metformin works differently. It does not INCREASE your insulin. When I read about the positive effects of Metformin, along with few, if any, side effects, I spoke to the endo dr. again. She agreed with me, and prescribed Metformin. I also read the article below posted by the administrator. Although the article doesn’t outwardly say “ metformin can cure cancer” , it does outline many positive effects of Metformin, and says further studies are needed. So I’ll try it. There is no downside that I see.
Betts77- I am interested in the vitamin c infusions. Where do you get those done? Did you go to a naturopath dr? My oncologist at Dana Farber has scoffed at my suggestions for other things. ( glad to hear your dr was more receptive).he did approve use of daily baby aspirin. My husband did not have much success w the 7 rounds of fulfironix and was switched to gemcitabine abraxim last week. He was really really tired afterwards. Slept for almost two days straight. Taste buds affected. Food not desirable now.
I am going to try and find an integrative dr who will be more open to discussion of things other than/in addition to chemo and radiation. The Dana drs didn’t want to discuss diet much, and said there is no evidence that a good diet helps survive cancer! No evidence? My husband got his blood sugar down from 430 to normal levels in a few weeks and got rid of most belly fat. Won’t that help him survive and deal better with treatments?? It’s discouraging when the drs don’t discuss the “ full picture”. Out first oncologist dr ( not Dana) who ordered the prescription for insulin did not even know he was prescribing insulin! He had consulted with another dr., and called in the prescription hurriedly on a Fri night after seeing my husband’s high glucose level. We had to call him and tell him we had no experience with injecting insulin. He admitted he didn’t know that was what had been prescribed!! Incredible.
We are going to SLoan Kettering next week for second opinion. We are now at Dana , and the dr there suggested we go to Sloan in order to possibly make it easier to get into a clinical trial at Sloan, if one is appropriate and available. I did get a list of clinical trials from cancer commons, and there is actually one going on for vitamin c infusion as well as another one for hydroxychloroquine at MD Anderson. The Dana Dr dismissed all the trials i mentioned and told me the info was a waste, and “ he hoped I didn’t pay a lot for it.” ( it was free). It seems he only wants my husband in a trial being run at his hospital…. The last few weeks have been trying. Navigating this medical world is difficult, and it is very hard to know what info to believe and what everyone’s motivations are. Big pharma controls most of the trials, and therefore controls the research, and withholds certain information relied upon by doctors. Read the book called “ Sickening” by Dr John Abramson.
Sorry to be a downer…. I am willing to explore every avenue. Anyone using Berberine? Thank you again Betts 77.

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Hi Bett,

I completely understand your frustration with your doctor po-pooing anything to do with non-pharmaceutical remedies - especially nutrition!!! The pancreas is the key organ in our body responsible for processing sugar and producing insulin! How in the world can cells that mutated from the pancreas NOT be impacted by sugar. Also there is a lot of research documenting how pancreatic cancer uses sugar as it's preferred food supply.

I completely believe that our diet is core to helping kill this cancer. It may not be a cure - but it must certainly help. I am pretty confident that it was my husband's nutritional habits that got him here in the first place. He consumed tons of sugar through tons of pop each day.
Doctors are NOT trained in nutrition.

Yes - we are now going to a Naturapath and it is there that we are receiving High Dose Vitamin C infusions. They will also be helping with my husband's nutrition. We will be getting the infusions two days before he goes into Chemo each cycle for starts. Vitamin C only remains in the body for 24 hours or less. Our oncologist has agreed with this after multiple conversations. She initially resisted and wanted a medical professional to oversee this treatment, which we now have with our Naturapath.

We are also going to begin the off-label patented protocal overseen by Care Oncology. They have a Metabolic doctor there that specializes in Pancreatic Cancer. We are hopeful.

Jane McClennan, in her book - How to Starve Cancer - recommends hitting cancer from every angle at the same time - which include chemo - although a reduced dosage of it.

I intend on doing just that: chemo + High Dose IV C + metformin + other off-label meds shown to inhibit cancer's growth (Care Oncology protocol) + diet + excercise + low dose Aspirin.

We have nothing to loose and everything to gain.

And yes - I have read about Berberine and am strongly considering adding it to his supplement list - along with anything else I can find.

Continuing to search out possible solutions.

Hoping for the best for you. Don't give up. Be tenacious.

Beth