"Rubbery" Legs?
Hello, all!
I've been diagnosed with idiopathic polyneuropathy. For the longest time, I've been able to get around pretty well. It's only been recently that I've started to carry a can around with me. Most often indoors I don't need it. What has me concerned are my legs: they seem to be getting weaker, especially toward evening. I tell people it's a "rubbery" feeling like I can really trust my legs. My knees especially feel untrustworthy. Has anyone else experienced this? Have you ever come up with ways to un-rubberize your legs? I've not fallen, at least not yet, but going around, especially outdoors, I'm always on guard.
Ray (@ray666)
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I'm sorry this has to be short. I'm in the middle of my work (and not getting that much done LOL!), but I wanted to reply immediately to thank you for your caution. I totally agree, and I have already requested a second opinion from another neurologist –– one that doesn't know one end of a scalpel from the other! But I have to say too that my neurosurgeon is a fellow I've known for a good long while and he is not surgery-driven. Another way of saying that, I guess, is he's a man I trust. In fact, I recall him saying, when he and I first met (years ago), that the best surgery is no surgery. And now too he is in no way trying to talk me into surgery. That decision will be mine to make. Your caution though is most appreciated! I might have said the same if someone else had written my earlier post. (Whoops! I'd better get back to work This afternoon is galloping by.) ––Ray (@ray666)
😀 You should see all the typos I make! I can never seem to learn to reread before hitting Send. ––Ray (@ray666)
@ray666 - Well you are certainly getting many helpful suggestions. Mind if I chime in?? Here is mine. Get the second or possibly the third opinion. I did, I got two a....no surgery, no surgery. I stopped at two, both were neuro. That was good enough for me. I felt when it came to small nerves, etc neuro would be best. Just my opinion. Both said that unless they were sure with high confidence they would help me, surgery was out ....also known as "do no harm". Good luck. Ed
Have you seen the hand grips that are installed with suction cups. You can place them ANYWHERE and they are easily removed. Don't make decisions for others, they just might like the feeling of being able to help another human being. The important thing is "ARE YOU A GOOD ACTOR". They are hard to find, and I bet your set designer wishes you would come back. I have become very determined to remain "self care" for as long as I can. I have trouble getting my legs up in bed at night. I have a small step stool I place in front of my bed. I sit on the edge of the bed, put both feet on the stool, swing myself around and throw the legs on the bed. I am in bed, NO HELP. Stay innovated, determined, and grateful you still can be all you want to be. I forgt to mention I am 92. Good Luck
Gina5009
Have you tried sitting in a chair and then rising out of it without using your arms. Squatts also exercise the same area. Start with just a few and then gradually add another one as often as you can
Gina5009
Ray - I am hoping, dreaming, and praying with you! Please keep us posted!
I know that doctor was an exception, based on experiences I've had anyway. But I decided that since we only have precious few minutes with our doctors, going forward I want them to see my stronger, positive, more determined side, and not risk getting an inferior care decision made because of a perceived weakness. I was fortunate not to need that surgery; if I had ended up "needing" it to prolong life, I honestly believe he wouldn't have done it. At the time I was 55 years old; the sudden Neuropathy came on 3 years before that, and I was fit/thin & athletic, a long distance runner and avid cyclist.
So, I didn't need him and was moving to another state anyway; but I sadly found out during the move that I had throat cancer. My new doctors in my new state, esp. the Thoracic Oncologist, of course were going to treat me, but with my Neuropathy warned me & coached me hard about the need for me to stay strong, exercise, and eat & drink despite the pain. It was a given that treatment causes Neuropathy in a lot of patients, and here I was already having an Idiopathic Neuropathy before cancer treatment. I could not get weak and slide. They said most patients lose 20-30 pounds. They implanted a feeding tube in advance of chemo-radiation to make sure I would maintain nutrition and hydration but begged me to not give up swallowing. I am proud to say I ate soft food, drank 1700 calories of Ensure per day & never even needed to use my feeding tube. After my last treatment, I recorded in at 5 pounds heavier than the process that started 4 months earlier! My Oncologist said he only had one other patient actually gain weight during throat cancer treatment. Even better, I am cancer free for 2+ years, and in some odd way, I feel like my Neuropathy got a tad bit better (I can't help but wonder if it was the Immunotherapy)
I think the cancer fight is what has added to my determination. As you know, it's quite a battle, and is very hard for us to get back up afterward. I don't want my healthcare providers to doubt my ability to endure what's needed for my optimal care if faced with uncertainty again. I feel so badly for you with the major setback you've had. Please don't give up trying. For your massage - have you tried Myofascial Release Therapy? One of our mentors is a huge advocate for it. She has provided lists of certified therapists, but none have been reasonably close to the places I've lived. If they did, I would be scheduling with them. Might that be an option where you live?
Debbie, when I read your email it sounds like you have been through more than one can take but you have remained strong and continue to fight through it all. You are one strong person! I am lucky. I have not had to deal with what you have. I do not have neuropathy pain but the numbness can be difficult to deal with at times. I also find having to use a walker, because I can’t walk without it, a major adjustment to make in my life. I am told my feet are paralyzed and there is no hope for them to get better. Life goes on and we just have to make the best of it, after all, what is the alternative? I hope this email finds you well and happy. Keep in touch.Hugs!
I think walking daily is important…I do most every day. Keep moving…
The fact you are 77 and still able to walk a few miles is commendable. Do you take statins for cholesterol? These can cause muscle issues…you could check with your doctor. I have neuropathy and my thighs are sore at times…it’s hard to tell just why. It appears your neuropathy progression has been relatively slow…so that’s good.
I just graduated from PT a month ago. I go to either water aerobics or strength training each week. These classes are great to learn balance! Yoga is also good. I also continue to do my PT exercises on days I don't exercise. I have found my balanced has improved greatly!
I was diagnosed recently with PN.
My calves are solid! Thigh muscles are strong too. I am not to afraid of falling now.
I hope this helps! Pat