@sueinmn, and all...Oh, Thank you so much. I'll get that thing going today and hope to be rid of those nasty rodents. I've been dealing with them far too long. Last week 4 babies were on the patio feeding off the floor the dropped seeds and running all around having fun. They played on my kitchen window sill for the longest time! drove Samanta, kitty, nuts. I wouldn't let her out of course, although she does chase them and has killed one huge rat, I don't want her in that position. She's an indoor senior cat. So, she hops up on her kitchen window tower and watches/slaps at them as they play. It'd be cute if they weren't such horrid creatures. She does that as long as they stay. They ignore her!

Thank you again, Sue. Hope this works...Be well, Elizabeth