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Red processed meat and things that affect CA 27-29 marker readings?

Posted by janetamyshapiro1956 @janetamyshapiro1956, Mar 13, 2023

Without thinking, I had a pastrami sandwich for dinner and half for breakfast the day of my 27-29. That tumor marker went down from 188 to 33 in 7 months. The day after the test I got the results and it went up 9 points to 42. I've read fifteenth things about red mean and especially processed red meat affecting blood results. I'm stressed . Anyone ever hear of red meat and blood work? I had the test two hours after eating half a huge sandwich and about 22 hours after eating the other half for dinner. Thanks Janet

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mdr3 | @mdr3 | Apr 1, 2023

So, my oncologist doesn't run tumor markers on me and I'm fine with it. But I'll go looking. Doing my own research off medical papers is how I keep "in the know" regarding my care.

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janetamyshapiro1956 | @janetamyshapiro1956 | Apr 1, 2023

If you find anything can you PLEASE let me know. I've researched every way I can think of.

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janetamyshapiro1956 | @janetamyshapiro1956 | Apr 1, 2023

Did I miss something? I don't see your answer to mybquest

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janetamyshapiro1956 | @janetamyshapiro1956 | Apr 1, 2023
In reply to @jpnnobx "If you are doing a 27-29 tumor marker test then I’m assuming it’s for breast cancer...." + (show)
@jpnnobx

If you are doing a 27-29 tumor marker test then I’m assuming it’s for breast cancer. I also have stage 4 breast cancer for almost 3 years. My markers have been 14-22 for the past 2-1/2 years. I gave up dairy and processed red meat because both of the two are some of the worst foods for driving up estrogen. Even tupperware drives up estrogen levels. If you do not have an estrogen driven cancer, dairy and processed red meat are the worse for any type of cancer. Good luck on your journey.

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So, could the pastrami have driven up the tumor marker? I never eat red meat, ordered by mistake and then was starving.

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janetamyshapiro1956 | @janetamyshapiro1956 | Apr 1, 2023
In reply to @nmgirl575 "Personally, I think, "All things in moderation." I avoid lunch meats that are processed that have..." + (show)
@nmgirl575

Personally, I think, "All things in moderation." I avoid lunch meats that are processed that have chemicals. I avoid all chemicals; cleaning and even cosmetics. Plastics should be watched too. The latest on red meat is that it is fine.
https://www.health.harvard.edu › staying-healthy › whats-the-beef-with-red-meat
What's the beef with red meat? - Harvard Health
An international team of researchers conducted five systematic reviews that looked at the effects of red meat and processed meat on multiple health issues, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and premature death. The researchers found "low" evidence that either red meat or processed meat is harmful.

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This wasn't just red meat, it was highly processed red meat.

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Critically Thinking | @timbrownfl | Apr 2, 2023
In reply to @janetamyshapiro1956 "I wonder who funded the study. Especially red processed meat." + (show)
@janetamyshapiro1956

I wonder who funded the study. Especially red processed meat.

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You got me with that reply. I had a vague recollection about this study. Having a litle background in scientific knowledge, I had to find out. You caught it. See this quote from Harvrd Medical School about the study: "Upon publication, a number of leading voices in nutrition science and policy took issue with the study’s methodology and claimed its authors, who have formed a group called NutriRECS, did not disclose ties with AgriLife Research, an arm of Texas A&M University that is partially funded by the beef industry." https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/whats-the-beef-with-red-meat

Good one. Thank you. It's a really big problem (you may have that cigarette now).

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jpnnobx | @jpnnobx | Apr 2, 2023
In reply to @janetamyshapiro1956 "So, could the pastrami have driven up the tumor marker? I never eat red meat, ordered..." + (show)
@janetamyshapiro1956

So, could the pastrami have driven up the tumor marker? I never eat red meat, ordered by mistake and then was starving.

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I don't think the one sandwich would have done it and there are some Drs that don't even look at this testing because of multiple reasons the numbers could be elevated. The problem lies when us patients look at these numbers as important because we don't understand the whole spectrum of all the different types of factors the Drs use to determine our path of recovery.

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janetamyshapiro1956 | @janetamyshapiro1956 | Apr 2, 2023
In reply to @timbrownfl "You got me with that reply. I had a vague recollection about this study. Having a..." + (show)
@timbrownfl

You got me with that reply. I had a vague recollection about this study. Having a litle background in scientific knowledge, I had to find out. You caught it. See this quote from Harvrd Medical School about the study: "Upon publication, a number of leading voices in nutrition science and policy took issue with the study’s methodology and claimed its authors, who have formed a group called NutriRECS, did not disclose ties with AgriLife Research, an arm of Texas A&M University that is partially funded by the beef industry." https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/whats-the-beef-with-red-meat

Good one. Thank you. It's a really big problem (you may have that cigarette now).

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The almighty dollar wins again.
Thanks for checking it out

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vickkigibson1962 | @vickkigibson1962 | Apr 5, 2023

What treatment were you on for your tumor marker to go down. Mine is currently 188 up from 108 in just a month.

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janetamyshapiro1956 | @janetamyshapiro1956 | Apr 6, 2023

Just gotvky new results yesterday. Back down to 38 which was a huge relief. What meds are you on? Have you considered diet, c b d/thc, etc. No refined sugar or processed foods and definitely no red meat!

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