I'd like to know if they help you. I've written about them before. One friend of mine in his 70's had horrible pain in his toes from peripheral neuropathy. He got the Liberty Patch, the one I use, and put it under his toes. It worked right away to help him. Now I see they have a patch for pain. Maybe that would be even better. I had shingles,: I guess I'm really lucky it wasn't worse. I still have itching on one side of my forehead after 5 years.