thank you so much for your reply. im sorry you are dealing with ms. its not easy i know. i been through so many doctors im starting to line up good ones after almost 2 years of various issues. i have alot of autoimmune. just found out my thyroid condition i have had for 20 years is hashimotos. i also am going on my 5th yes 5th GI. i dont believe i have ms. im mostley dealing with possible autoimmune gastritis which scares me. plus the sjorgens and silent reflux i have 3 specialist appts in next 2 weeks. i did have a ctscan last july thats how i found about as far as my lower back it said degenerative changes near my lumberspine but this was in the ER. my other pain, i dont know if its sjorgens or something else. but im been at this almost 2 years. looking and i wil get treatment. i appreciate your post so much thank you!