Is it time for a 4th Biopsy?

Posted by b0ater @b0ater, Feb 9, 2023

Obviously will discuss this with the doctor when he calls on Friday but my wife and I are wondering if I am in for my 4th biopsy.

59 YO who has had a high PSA for 15 years, enlarged prostate at 55cc, the last biopsy was in 2019 with 24 cores and was negative. I had another jump in PSA 13 months ago and then again in July 2022, then moved to 3 months VS 6 month testing interval and it continued to rise. In November the DR ordered a Prostate MRI that due to travel and the holidays was performed on 1/3/2023, the results again suggested possible PCa or prostatitis similar to my 2019 MRI. Dr ordered a FreePSA test and I received the results today, my PSA is 6.5 FreePSA is 0.75 or 11.719% which is still above 10% but low for my age, and depending on the chart I look at has a 25-35 % chance of cancer. My PSA density is in the normal range at 0.118 so that is a good sign. I have a family history of PCa with my dad, 2 uncles, and a grandfather on my mother's side.

I have been reading the forum for a while but thought it was time to join for support and a place to have a conversation and ask questions.

Thanks in advance.

Paul

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Honest Q: Why the concern over a repeat biopsy?
And why track PSA if adverse? Biopsy only way to confirm. And with personal history of prostate concerns, and family history of confirmed cancer???

What would be better: 5 more negative biopsies or 1 positive biopsy 3 years late?

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If you get another biopsy, which kind of makes sense, you might want to get the Decipher test as well which uses the biopsy material to test aggressiveness and treatment modality.

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@michaelcharles

Honest Q: Why the concern over a repeat biopsy?
And why track PSA if adverse? Biopsy only way to confirm. And with personal history of prostate concerns, and family history of confirmed cancer???

What would be better: 5 more negative biopsies or 1 positive biopsy 3 years late?

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Not adverse to another biopsy though they only confirm PCa and have no guarantee against a false negative result, was hoping that the MRI would have shown some targets for the DR to go after and not just have the random cores again. I do think the PSAFree is a better indicator than the PSA density, it is interesting that the growth in the volume of my prostate correlates with a percent PSA increase from 01/18 to 01/23 at 35.1% and 35.4% respectively. It is the low %PSAFree number that has me agreeing it is time for the 4th.

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Clearly you are obtaining, thinking about and analyzing a lot of relevant information, and that is great.
Sounds like you are inclined to have another biopsy, and I can only hope that you are and continue to be cancer free.

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I'd go with Radiation Oncologist suggestions. My Biopsy was performed by a traditional urologist. A Device with a bunch of needles, thankfully that procedure is being replaced by MRI biopsies. Your vigilance is commendable.

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