Well just returned from visit with urologist ... in the course of conversation was told if your a "grower" and not a shower ... meaning if your small flacid but enlarge to a decent size when erect ... if you do an implant you will not be near as large as u will be normally ... most men I was told are disappointed .. if you grasp your penis by the head and pull it out ... whatever you see like that is about the length you are going to get ..