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I reversed osteoporosis without drugs

Posted by sheilad1 @sheilad1, Dec 28, 2022

I had my bone quality test yesterday along with another bone density test. This was my third bone density test in 14 months.

My first bone density test was Nov 2021.
I started consulting with different doctors. If I must take meds I would. But I had to get to the truth.
The physician who appeared to know the most is Keith McCormick DC the chiropractor who got osteoporosis at a very young age and really understands it.

That first DEXA scan showed I had mild osteoperosis of the spine, within the margin of error.
So no McCormick said to take the CTX (blood) test and a few others.
CTX was good.
My CTX shows that the osteoclasts are not breaking down too much bone. therefore, my next bone density test shouldn’t show that that I am much worse.

I decided not to wait until 2 years for another scan and took
I took another bone density (aka DEXA) scan 10/2022 to see if that was true about the CTX.
My spine was actually better in that scan and it was now osteopenia.
My hip was a little worse bringing it outside the margin of error. McCormick said this was a tough call so I said to him why don’t I get a bone quality test (that he told me about) and I figured that will buy me a little time anyway lol.

Unfortunately, the bone quality test only measures the spine.
Since it’s unusual for your spine to get better and your hip to get worse, it made me think - what have I done differently since the last test? Why would my spine improve but not my hip? What is my spine doing that my hip is not?

I decided it had to be the Supernatural virtual reality exercise app that I exercise to (on the oculus quest VR helmet). Even though I am striking the air, there actually is resistance, and I push hard to hit it as powerfully as I can.

I decided to put weights on my ankles. Everything I read says weight training should be once or twice a week, and I certainly only did it once.

Back to yesterday and the bone quality (TBS) test and yet another bone density (DEXA) test.
My hip was back to where it was on the first test. This put me back inside the margin of error where I would not have to take medication
This demonstrated to me that the CTX score did in fact mean I'm not losing density quickly.
Yesterday's test shows that my spine continued to improve and my bone density score was no longerosteopenia. It was normal. My bone quality test was great. The tech really loved it and called me over to show me how I was completely in the green meaning It was normal which is a little unusual at my age, 74, altogether.

I may be wrong about supernatural helping.
I’ll probably take the DEXA again in six months because I am anxious to see how the hip does, and if it improves even more.
And if so, I’ll turn myself into a study. 😂

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pami | @pami | Jan 14, 2023

Thank you for your information!

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thehuth6 | @thehuth6 | Jan 14, 2023
In reply to @pami "I have read medical reviews that are against strontium citrate. It makes bone density appear better..." + (show)
@pami

I have read medical reviews that are against strontium citrate. It makes bone density appear better because it is an element that weighs more than calcium. You might be interested in reading this:
https://www.ironwoodcrc.com/top-5-supplements-for-bone-health/

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Thanks!

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barbakp | @barbakp | Jan 14, 2023
In reply to @funnybone "bettersleep68.....yes me too journey is challenging, supplements and exercise have to be tailored to an individual..." + (show)
@funnybone

bettersleep68.....yes me too journey is challenging, supplements and exercise have to be tailored to an individual daily program. Not easy to figure out the bone's requirements. Stay the course, and don't give up, that right doctor should work with you and has enough bone knowledge for safe and effective therapies discussion, or else find someone else. My osteoporosis approach at 72 is no meds or dangerous bone pills. My tailored recipe for bone health now: 3-4 times a week LA fitness weight-bearing exercises, 50 minutes each time, 7,500-10,000 walking steps a day, good nutrition, bone supplements. Most importantly, been using low-dose bioidentical testosterone creme applied to the lower spine. Have a consult in February to look at recent DEXA/TBS numbers and re-evaluate our bone plan approach. Lab results - my hormones were very low (estrogen, testosterone), and needed to be balanced with the right dose, route and type, and low hormones are the cause of bone loss for me, no other underlying condition. Hope this is helpful. Exploring different safe treatment options to stop the bone loss is a worthwhile conversation with a doctor. I have an integrative MD.

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Wonderful information. How did you find an integrative md? My regular doctor is useless and I’m searching for another.. plus an integrative sounds fascinating. I’m doing most of what you do already (except there is no gym closer than an hour away, so I do weights at home and Fishman Yoga. ).. I do the steps and zero sugar and alcohol. Supplement with magnesium, K2, D3 , Omega 3, C and B complex. I added collagen and get plenty of protein. I would really like a physician who understood this issue and worked with me!
Thanks for any direction! I’m 75

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sheilad1 | @sheilad1 | Jan 15, 2023
In reply to @pami "I have read medical reviews that are against strontium citrate. It makes bone density appear better..." + (show)
@pami

I have read medical reviews that are against strontium citrate. It makes bone density appear better because it is an element that weighs more than calcium. You might be interested in reading this:
https://www.ironwoodcrc.com/top-5-supplements-for-bone-health/

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I was told the same.

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thehuth6 | @thehuth6 | Jan 16, 2023
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@sheilad1

I was told the same.

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Thanks! This is all so scary!

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bettersleep68 | @bettersleep68 | Jan 16, 2023

Why don't they set age recommendations for dexa at 50yrs of age instead of 65..that would probably help alot of women...65 I think is too late. .damage already done

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leeosteo | @leeosteo | Jan 19, 2023
In reply to @sheilad1 "Here are the full DEXA and TBS results from my last test. I consult with Keith..." + (show)
@sheilad1

Here are the full DEXA and TBS results from my last test. I consult with Keith McCormick DC who I can't say enough great things about, who was impressed with the DEXA being much more comprehensive than most. The office I did this at does research studies. There are only two places in all of South Florida, both in Miami that do the TBS. And we're lucky to have that.

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Hi Sheilad1. How did you connect with Keith McCormick DC? Isn't he out of Mass? It looks like you live in Florida. Where you referred by your doctor?

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sheilad1 | @sheilad1 | Jan 19, 2023
In reply to @leeosteo "Hi Sheilad1. How did you connect with Keith McCormick DC? Isn't he out of Mass? It..." + (show)
@leeosteo

Hi Sheilad1. How did you connect with Keith McCormick DC? Isn't he out of Mass? It looks like you live in Florida. Where you referred by your doctor?

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when I am looking for a lifestyle changes as opposed to drugs, I always Google plant-based specialist or a lifestyle specialist doctor. Dr. Micah Yu appears to be the only Plant Based/lifestyle rheumatologist in the country and he is a osteoporosis specialist. So I did a telemedicine with him, he accepts Medicare. He said he’s just starting to do alternative treatments, and because of my age, 74, and that we are on zoom, he would not treat me that way. But he told me about Keith McCormick. He said he can’t recommend him because he doesn’t know what he does well enough at this point, but he was telling me about him and if I decide to go forward I can come back and ask Dr. Yu what he thinks of what I’m doing. So I contacted McCormick and we did it by phone. He charges $350 an hour and does half hour and 15 minute consult as well. Time passed and talk to you got to talking to Dr. McCormick and when the second book comes out I believe the doctor Yu wrote the intro.

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windyshores | @windyshores | Jan 19, 2023
In reply to @sheilad1 "when I am looking for a lifestyle changes as opposed to drugs, I always Google plant-based..." + (show)
@sheilad1

when I am looking for a lifestyle changes as opposed to drugs, I always Google plant-based specialist or a lifestyle specialist doctor. Dr. Micah Yu appears to be the only Plant Based/lifestyle rheumatologist in the country and he is a osteoporosis specialist. So I did a telemedicine with him, he accepts Medicare. He said he’s just starting to do alternative treatments, and because of my age, 74, and that we are on zoom, he would not treat me that way. But he told me about Keith McCormick. He said he can’t recommend him because he doesn’t know what he does well enough at this point, but he was telling me about him and if I decide to go forward I can come back and ask Dr. Yu what he thinks of what I’m doing. So I contacted McCormick and we did it by phone. He charges $350 an hour and does half hour and 15 minute consult as well. Time passed and talk to you got to talking to Dr. McCormick and when the second book comes out I believe the doctor Yu wrote the intro.

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I bought the book which has contact info for Dr. McCormick, then drove out to meet in person, pre-COVID. He does virtual consultations. He has a website.

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kirstenlheld | @kirstenlheld | Jan 20, 2023

I just finished his book and got a lot out of it. I'm not going to implement any changes until I see the endocrinologist on the 31st of Jan. Hopefully, she will order the main tests he suggests. Even if I have to pay for them myself, I want to do everything possible to understand exactly what is happening right now in my body and supplement accordingly without guessing.

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