I reversed osteoporosis without drugs

Posted by sheilad1 @sheilad1, Dec 28, 2022

I had my bone quality test yesterday along with another bone density test. This was my third bone density test in 14 months.

My first bone density test was Nov 2021.
I started consulting with different doctors. If I must take meds I would. But I had to get to the truth.
The physician who appeared to know the most is Keith McCormick DC the chiropractor who got osteoporosis at a very young age and really understands it.

That first DEXA scan showed I had mild osteoperosis of the spine, within the margin of error.
So no McCormick said to take the CTX (blood) test and a few others.
CTX was good.
My CTX shows that the osteoclasts are not breaking down too much bone. therefore, my next bone density test shouldn’t show that that I am much worse.

I decided not to wait until 2 years for another scan and took
I took another bone density (aka DEXA) scan 10/2022 to see if that was true about the CTX.
My spine was actually better in that scan and it was now osteopenia.
My hip was a little worse bringing it outside the margin of error. McCormick said this was a tough call so I said to him why don’t I get a bone quality test (that he told me about) and I figured that will buy me a little time anyway lol.

Unfortunately, the bone quality test only measures the spine.
Since it’s unusual for your spine to get better and your hip to get worse, it made me think - what have I done differently since the last test? Why would my spine improve but not my hip? What is my spine doing that my hip is not?

I decided it had to be the Supernatural virtual reality exercise app that I exercise to (on the oculus quest VR helmet). Even though I am striking the air, there actually is resistance, and I push hard to hit it as powerfully as I can.

I decided to put weights on my ankles. Everything I read says weight training should be once or twice a week, and I certainly only did it once.

Back to yesterday and the bone quality (TBS) test and yet another bone density (DEXA) test.
My hip was back to where it was on the first test. This put me back inside the margin of error where I would not have to take medication
This demonstrated to me that the CTX score did in fact mean I'm not losing density quickly.
Yesterday's test shows that my spine continued to improve and my bone density score was no longerosteopenia. It was normal. My bone quality test was great. The tech really loved it and called me over to show me how I was completely in the green meaning It was normal which is a little unusual at my age, 74, altogether.

I may be wrong about supernatural helping.
I’ll probably take the DEXA again in six months because I am anxious to see how the hip does, and if it improves even more.
And if so, I’ll turn myself into a study. 😂

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@windyshores

@sheiladad1 I don't see that looking specifically at your spinal score your reports- and I don't think you can transition from osteopenia to normal in two months. I see -.7 for 2021 and -.5 for 2022 which is not a significant difference and both are normal. Maybe I am reading it wrong.

The first batch you posted had DEXA scores that were not dated and spine was -1. Was that 2020? A score of -1 is barely osteopenia (-1- to -2.5) and a DEXA, with its variations, could easily toggle between osteopenia and normal.

I also see Keith McCormick but he urged me to take meds. I won't post any more on this but it is important to clarify when you are posting about improvements without meds.

I have 7 fractures. I just don't want anyone else to fracture!

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Can anyone tell me the calcium supplement that dr Keith McCormick recommends...

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@bettersleep68

Can anyone tell me the calcium supplement that dr Keith McCormick recommends...

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Citrate not carbonate as I remember; better via food but I had to discuss supplements due to dairy allergy.

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@bettersleep68

Can anyone tell me the calcium supplement that dr Keith McCormick recommends...

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I get calcium from food because I had a really high calcium score. I get collagen from McCormick. His website is osteonaturals.com

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@windyshores

Citrate not carbonate as I remember; better via food but I had to discuss supplements due to dairy allergy.

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Windy shores...you are so well informed on the osteoporosis disease ..I would like to know what you think of my t scores..-2.5 in both hips..lumbar -3.5....have had the same scores on DeX for 6 years ...no differences...same machine...I do not want to take meds ...thank you

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@bettersleep68

Is anyone just trying to maintain their bones and dexa scan without meds and just doing supplements..I am trying that approach with my osteoporosis..if it stays the same that would be great...this journey is very difficult

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bettersleep68.....yes me too journey is challenging, supplements and exercise have to be tailored to an individual daily program. Not easy to figure out the bone's requirements. Stay the course, and don't give up, that right doctor should work with you and has enough bone knowledge for safe and effective therapies discussion, or else find someone else. My osteoporosis approach at 72 is no meds or dangerous bone pills. My tailored recipe for bone health now: 3-4 times a week LA fitness weight-bearing exercises, 50 minutes each time, 7,500-10,000 walking steps a day, good nutrition, bone supplements. Most importantly, been using low-dose bioidentical testosterone creme applied to the lower spine. Have a consult in February to look at recent DEXA/TBS numbers and re-evaluate our bone plan approach. Lab results - my hormones were very low (estrogen, testosterone), and needed to be balanced with the right dose, route and type, and low hormones are the cause of bone loss for me, no other underlying condition. Hope this is helpful. Exploring different safe treatment options to stop the bone loss is a worthwhile conversation with a doctor. I have an integrative MD.

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Just a caution that some of us did indeed get breast cancer that is fed by hormones. Testosterone is converted to estradiol, I believe. Would you consider Evista instead, to continue estrogen going to appropriate receptors but not contributing to cancer risk?

Meds sound dangerous but as a person with 7-8 spinal fractures, I can tell you those are dangerous and painful and disabling. When the time comes, I hope everyone will consider an actual bone builder like Tymlos, Forteo or Evenity.

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@bettersleep68

Windy shores...you are so well informed on the osteoporosis disease ..I would like to know what you think of my t scores..-2.5 in both hips..lumbar -3.5....have had the same scores on DeX for 6 years ...no differences...same machine...I do not want to take meds ...thank you

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With lumbar spine at -3.5 I would consider meds. As I have written before, I started Tymlos at two clicks out of the 8 in the pen and moved the dose up slowly. I am a lot more afraid of fractures (I have 7) than meds.

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@windyshores

With lumbar spine at -3.5 I would consider meds. As I have written before, I started Tymlos at two clicks out of the 8 in the pen and moved the dose up slowly. I am a lot more afraid of fractures (I have 7) than meds.

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Thanks for your reply

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@funnybone

bettersleep68.....yes me too journey is challenging, supplements and exercise have to be tailored to an individual daily program. Not easy to figure out the bone's requirements. Stay the course, and don't give up, that right doctor should work with you and has enough bone knowledge for safe and effective therapies discussion, or else find someone else. My osteoporosis approach at 72 is no meds or dangerous bone pills. My tailored recipe for bone health now: 3-4 times a week LA fitness weight-bearing exercises, 50 minutes each time, 7,500-10,000 walking steps a day, good nutrition, bone supplements. Most importantly, been using low-dose bioidentical testosterone creme applied to the lower spine. Have a consult in February to look at recent DEXA/TBS numbers and re-evaluate our bone plan approach. Lab results - my hormones were very low (estrogen, testosterone), and needed to be balanced with the right dose, route and type, and low hormones are the cause of bone loss for me, no other underlying condition. Hope this is helpful. Exploring different safe treatment options to stop the bone loss is a worthwhile conversation with a doctor. I have an integrative MD.

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Thank you for your response...what bone supplement do you take ..I take algaecal and have maintained my dexa scan ..I wish us the best of luck ...I am your age

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Hi! I appreciate all of the posts. I am in the process of completing 2 years of Forteo. Has anyone taken the Strontium citrate supplement from Algaecal. Have you had any success? I see reviews on the vendor website but having a hard time finding an independent source.
I did read a review that stated it was like putting cement in your bones and replaced the effectiveness of calcium. Is this true?
Thanks!

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