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Stage 3 Kidney Disease and Diet: What can I eat?

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@gingerw

@eirrol Seeing that your doctor and renal nutritionist have okayed this, I personally would proceed with caution. We have previously posted links to diet recommendations from National Kidney Association and American Kidney Foundation, here. Take a look to see what they say.

While each person is different, it is still an agreed premise to watch your phosphorous, calcium, sugar, salt, and potassium intakes in the foods you eat. Have you checked into the nutritional values of these grains, yet?
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From eirrol
Hi Ginger, happy new year and thank you for your reply. I checked the nutritional value of the flourless bread I am using before I ever ate it and again to write it here. Calcium 9mg, iron 1 mg, potassium 61 mg, thiamin .1 , niacin 2 mg, vit. B6 .o1, folate 1 mcg, DFE 4%, phos. 73mg, mag. 26mg, zinc 1 mg, selenium 13 mcg, manganese .08. Even at that, I eat it occasionally, not every day. The other bread I am allowed is white bread and I look for one with the smallest amounts of potassium, phosphorous, sodium, etc. Lastly, I am allowed cornbread. I am careful of it because of its high magnesium but it truly helped me about a year ago when I could not gain any weight. So now I eat it occasionally. It is hard, but I try not to eat the same things constantly.I used to eat cabbage every day, twice a day as boiled or slaw, or in a mixed salad. Then my caregiver/ friend brought over an article by a reputable couple titled Too Much of a Good Thing can be bad, saying too much cabbage can affect the thyroid and cause goiters. I researched it and it appears to be true. I wondered if it could affect the parathyroid as that sits atop the thyroid but my doctor says no. Anyway, it gave me a “ heads up” to try to vary my kinds of food which remains a challenge for me. I still eat an egg a day. Cereal just does not give me any sustained energy, even with apple and blueberries in it.
From eirrol

@gingerw, hello.

Am having a lot of difficulty finding certain information. I know this is the Kidney and Bladder thread and I do have CKD but I also have gastroparesis and am experiencing many roadblocks to getting detailed information about the latter.

CKD patients need to be careful about grains and so do gastroparesis patients. Everything I've read and been told about gastroparesis says to limit fiber, avoid legumes (except refried beans, of all things, and peanut butter!) as well as nuts and seeds.

Unfortunately, the GI specialists where I live and the nutritionists don't seem to know enough to answer my questions.

1. Most if not all commercial/prepared mustard is made by soaking and grinding mustard seeds into paste then adding vinegar, salt, perhaps some oil and sugar. Since the seeds are broken down into a smooth paste and product labels indicate zero fiber, does anybody know if is it ok for a GP person to use 1/2 tbsp mustard once in awhile?

2. I also have a question about celery seeds, which are extremely tiny. I fail to see how 6 to 8 celery seeds occasionally sprinkled into egg salad or potato salad or soup could possibly contribute to bezoar formation or exacerbate diverticulosis, especially since five or six times that amount (or 1/2 tsp) contains only 0.1 grams of fiber. So, can someone tell me if consuming a few celery seeds now and then are safe?

I did check several sources and Crystal Saltrelli is the only person I found who
indicated a GP patient can try such things sparingly and see if they're tolerated.

As you know, renal diets are in conflict with diabetic diets and with gastroparesis diets, therefore I have to do much compromising on a daily basis and am spending an inordinate amount of time and energy calculating nutritional values and appropriate amounts of limited foods. This is far more challenging than if was for me to create my own ovo-vegetarian renal diet which also fits with a very modified vegetarian (meat-free, low-or-no-dairy) diabetes diet.

Nuts and seeds are ok for vegetarians with diabetes but must be eaten sparingly on a renal diet due to mineral content and supposedly should be avoided on a gastroparesis diet.

Meat substitutes and protein veggies are ok on a vegetarian diet and even on a diabetic diet but should be limited on a gastroparesis diet.

Very frustrating!

Although I need to avoid dairy products, I can't get enough nutrition without supplementing with Boost or Ensure daily, which contain milk!

If you or anyone else knows where I can get real answers to real questions besides the burping (pun intended) of "avoid this" or "limit that" gastro diet, please let me know.

Thanks!