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Epidural Injections

Spine Health | Last Active: Aug 5, 2023 | Replies (54)

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@jenniferhunter

@docb99 Spine issues do cause muscle spasms and when you do dry needling, the action of inserting the needle releases the stored electric charge that is causing the spasm. Fascia also conducts electricity and sometimes releasing it releases some energy. My PT tells me that sometimes she feels zaps in her fingers when working on me.

A similar modality that does not involve needles is a Dolphin Neurostimulator in which a therapist sends a charge between 2 handheld devices. There is a setting to interrupt the neurotransmitters in the pain signals and when my PT did that (before spine surgery), I was able to get pain relief for about a week. She was holding the devices across the nerve roots in my neck.

I had one epidural injection done below C5/C6 as a diagnostic, and the anesthesiologist who did that told me never to allow a doctor to do an epidural above that level because it is too risky. With the nerves that control breathing and heart functions emerging from the spine, a poorly done injection could affect a vital body function. The base of the skull and C1 junction is delicate, and even tipping the head backward in a sink at a beauty salon can cause a stroke or clot to form.

Instability causes one vertebrae to slip past another and essentially, it narrows the spinal canal doing that. If there is already some stenosis in the canal, it can affect that even more. I'm glad you have a PT spine expert, and hopefully that helps or holds off surgery for awhile. It is worth asking for what a spine expert might predict would be the course of the spine disease without intervention, and when an optimal window would be to fix something if that is in your future. You don't want to rush into surgery, but sometimes people wait too long, and then have permanent nerve damage. I tracked my symptoms on a drawing on the body and dated the drawings so I knew how fast it was progressing. That helped me know when the time was right for spinal cord decompression surgery.

I hope you'll stay in touch and let me know how your PT is going.

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Hello
I had several PT sessions to release occipital nerve compression but they seem to make me feel worse after. The PT and I agreed to cease for a while. Movement helps so I walk daily and intermittently throughout the day.

I have been on Gabapentin 900 mg and it helps some but my neck can hurt at the slightest movement. 1200 mg is too much for me. I have had greater and less occipital nerve blocks that also help but I think an auricular nerve block is also needed b/c I have burning ear pain as well.

My physiatrist is somewhat helpful but my neurologist isn't. My husband and I google like crazy for some answers. I have begged for and will be having a soft tissue MRI next week. If it shows nothing, I will ask for MR neurography.

Mayo did not accept me but they are the only place where docs from different disciplines talk to each other about a patient. I'm at a university medical center but docs don't do that.

Hello Jennifer
I have stopped PT for a while because I found that the occipital release the PT was doing was making me feel worse the next day. We discussed it and decided to take a break from the PT.
I believe that my pain is not related to spine issues but rather to possible nerve compression somewhere in the greater, lesser, or auricular nerve area. Burning ear pain suggests the auricular nerve.
My daughter had tarsal tunnel entrapment that was surgically addressed by Dr. Spinner at Mayo. I can't help but wonder if I have an entrapped nerve as well that is causing the neck pain.