@rwinney - My original pain was trauma from the car accident in the mid 70's - never really described or even acknowledged by Kaiser apparently because there were no outward signs of damage . I was told I survived the accident by the fire department who extracted me with the "jaws of life" because I had the original seat belt somewhat re-designed into a shoulder belt. The inattentive driver's heavier car drove left into the driver's side (me) when I was travelling about 40 mph and pushed my VW bug way out of the intersection.