Diagnosed with DCIS: How do I decide on treatment?

Posted by tctredwell1 @tctredwell1, Aug 23, 2022

I was diagnosed with DCIS. I have to go in for a breast MRI with contrast tomorrow to see how active the cancer is. If it’s contained and not very active, do I have to have a lumpectomy?

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@lcr2017

It is not my intention to give incorrect information here. I checked my reports and can only tell you my understanding of what my results indicated. My cancer was bilateral, which is uncommon, so that’s already a different category. One breast was DCIS and everywhere, a constellation of cancerous microcalcifations. The other was a micro invasion, IDC. (This was all unexpected because I always had regular screenings.) I had 2 opinions/suppositions prio to the surgery or the pathology and diagnostic tests coming back from the mastectomies and both doctors had already been leaning towards chemo and trying to prepare me. The surgeon that did the mastectomies ordered the Oncotype DX and the pathology report said Ki-67 and FISH to follow. There are other tests that check the same thing as Oncotype, like Mammaprint. She was not optimistic before the results of the Oncotype came in, due to the pathology and it being in both breasts. It came back a early stage, which is important. My Oncotype DX was low so no chemo was recommended. My Ki-67 was 10%. My understanding is that this test determines how quickly the cancer cells replicate. So that low score was another indication that I would not benefit from chemo. I can’t find my results for FISH. Some articles state that Ki-67 is controversial because institutions have different cut off numbers for what “low” means. A “low” number is another indicator of recurrence and survival and the Ki-67 test should not be used alone, but in conjunction with those other tests.
In any case, my invasive cancer was not found in other breast tissue, other than where the tumor was located and they were the same kind of cancer. I had no lymph node involvement. I think everyone involved was surprised but obviously very happy for me.
I did 5 years on anastrozole. At my 5 year check up this summer, my oncologist said he is confident that there will be a reliable blood test soon in order to determine recurrence. For me, that would be amazing because I don’t have anything they can screen. Because my cancer was bilateral among other criteria, I qualified for Genetic Testing to see if I carried the genes for breast cancer. I didn’t, so I was told that it was probably environmental factors. I think they were pretty thorough even though some of the science and correlations are beyond me and fingers crossed that a recurrence is low. I think we all did our best.
Hope for good outcomes!

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ki67% is one of the proliferative factors in the Oncotype, according to the company. My ki67% was 20 (low end of high) but Oncotype was 8. Grade 3, LVI. It's so confusing!

With both breasts gone, I also wonder how the heck I can tell there is metastasis. I read about that blood test and am going to ask if that can catch metastasis.

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@windyshores

ki67% is one of the proliferative factors in the Oncotype, according to the company. My ki67% was 20 (low end of high) but Oncotype was 8. Grade 3, LVI. It's so confusing!

With both breasts gone, I also wonder how the heck I can tell there is metastasis. I read about that blood test and am going to ask if that can catch metastasis.

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My concern too. I don’t think you can…Next check up is January. 🤞🏻

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@windyshores

ki67% is one of the proliferative factors in the Oncotype, according to the company. My ki67% was 20 (low end of high) but Oncotype was 8. Grade 3, LVI. It's so confusing!

With both breasts gone, I also wonder how the heck I can tell there is metastasis. I read about that blood test and am going to ask if that can catch metastasis.

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As problematic as they can be, there are cases (including two mentioned on Mayo Connect, I believe) where tumor markers were the only sign that something was going wrong. I recall one writer here noting that they saved her life as they led to deeper examination and PET (or MRI) scan that found distant recurrence.

I wish that there were more consistent methodology for monitoring this stuff as relying solely on mammo or ultrasound seems woefully inadequate for identifying distant cancers early.

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@callalloo

As problematic as they can be, there are cases (including two mentioned on Mayo Connect, I believe) where tumor markers were the only sign that something was going wrong. I recall one writer here noting that they saved her life as they led to deeper examination and PET (or MRI) scan that found distant recurrence.

I wish that there were more consistent methodology for monitoring this stuff as relying solely on mammo or ultrasound seems woefully inadequate for identifying distant cancers early.

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Meant to correct that breasts are relevant for local or regional recurrence but not distant spread 🙂

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Hi all.
My surgery is tomorrow 😱 (10/24). My left breast (that my first doctor thought was fine) now has a diagnosis of DCIS and a SAVI implantation took place this past Thursday.

My right breast that was originally diagnosed DCIS now has three areas of concern - 2 are cancerous and one is about to be - so all 3 areas need to be removed thus changing the procedure to a partial mastectomy. Tomorrow I’ll have wires implanted in the right breast to guide the surgeon.

I’m going to talk to the doctor tomorrow about Oncotype DX testing and see what he says.

Needless to say, I’m bummed out but I’m glad I have you guys to talk to. Thanks.

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@tctredwell1

Hi all.
My surgery is tomorrow 😱 (10/24). My left breast (that my first doctor thought was fine) now has a diagnosis of DCIS and a SAVI implantation took place this past Thursday.

My right breast that was originally diagnosed DCIS now has three areas of concern - 2 are cancerous and one is about to be - so all 3 areas need to be removed thus changing the procedure to a partial mastectomy. Tomorrow I’ll have wires implanted in the right breast to guide the surgeon.

I’m going to talk to the doctor tomorrow about Oncotype DX testing and see what he says.

Needless to say, I’m bummed out but I’m glad I have you guys to talk to. Thanks.

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@tctredwell1 Gosh tomorrow so this post may be too late but good luck!

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@windyshores

@tctredwell1 Gosh tomorrow so this post may be too late but good luck!

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Not to late! It’s not tomorrow yet and thank you for the well wishes - I REALLY appreciate it! Night night.

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@tctredwell1

Not to late! It’s not tomorrow yet and thank you for the well wishes - I REALLY appreciate it! Night night.

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Wishing you the best -

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@tctredwell1

Hi all.
My surgery is tomorrow 😱 (10/24). My left breast (that my first doctor thought was fine) now has a diagnosis of DCIS and a SAVI implantation took place this past Thursday.

My right breast that was originally diagnosed DCIS now has three areas of concern - 2 are cancerous and one is about to be - so all 3 areas need to be removed thus changing the procedure to a partial mastectomy. Tomorrow I’ll have wires implanted in the right breast to guide the surgeon.

I’m going to talk to the doctor tomorrow about Oncotype DX testing and see what he says.

Needless to say, I’m bummed out but I’m glad I have you guys to talk to. Thanks.

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Had you been tested for the BraCA gene?
Good luck with your surgery, I hope you have an easy recovery.

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@margo19

Had you been tested for the BraCA gene?
Good luck with your surgery, I hope you have an easy recovery.

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I spoke to my doctor and he said testing like that would be a discussion for the oncologists after the surgery at my follow-up appointment in November. As far as how I’m doing - not so great. I got home last night just feeling a little shaky and then things got worse. I tried eating a few saltines and a little while later I threw up and up and up. Thank goodness I had a plastic waste paper basket next to the sofa. I’ve been nauseous, shaky and weak ever since. And then there’s my right breast - a partial mastectomy was performed on it and now it’s huge, hard and bleeding! I called the doctor last night and he said to put gauze over each incision and then put tape on each very tightly. When I tried to get up the feelings of nausea and weakness were overwhelming and I almost fell down. I gave up trying to get to the closet and went back to the sofa. I have a stack o Bounty napkins on my coffee table so I’m using them under my now giant breast to sop up the blood. The blood is in big blotches - it’s not running.
(I had a hysterectomy last October at the same facility and did not go through this. I had pain and had to pee all the time but no nausea. I’ve never had nausea like this before.)
Last night I had to sleep/rest sitting up to stop the nausea and shaking. Today I’m kind of lying down with my head up high leaning against a big pillow on the armrest still feeling nauseous, shaky and weak. This morning I tried a few ounces of flat, warm Sprite and the nausea came rushing back. I sat with my head down until the nausea passed. An hour ago, I tried one Saltine and almost threw up again. I’ve spoken to 2 nurses this morning and they will get back to me as soon as they talk to the doctor.
Sorry for such a long post. I’m hoping someone/s from this support group can help me. Thank you for listening.

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