@jshdma I know how frustrating it is. My personal opinion is that Oral LP can cause permanent nerve damage. For the past 2 years my lips have felt bloated with numb and pain at the same time even though I was not having an outbreak. I dribble when I drink because I cannot feel my lips so I drink with a straw. I have seen 5 dermatologists and several other doctors and all they do is shrug and say it looks fine to them. I can only hope at some time my lips will return to normal. I hope you find an answer for yourself and wish you weren't going through this.