Osteoporosis treatment or strontium citrate?

Posted by bonelady @bonelady, May 10, 2018

Is reclast a safe treatment for osteoporosis I have not done anything so far except strontium citrate?

***Director's Note:***
There’s not enough research to know if strontium fights osteoporosis. Also, the FDA doesn’t regulate supplements in the same way as prescription drugs, so it's not possible to know if if they are safe or work well or even how much of the main ingredient they contain.

If you want to take a strontium supplement, it is recommended to ask your doctor first.

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I was diagnosed with osteoporosis 6 years ago and began a treatment of Osteosheath by Vinco along Strontium 750.After 3 Dexa scans my spine is at normal readings and hip is only reading osteopenia. All scans were done at same facility.
Dilagence paid off..I'm also using Superior source D3 sublingual 10,000..daily...

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Strontium throws off the DEXA by filling in gaps and can replace calcium. But it's not bone or contributing to making bone. Compare it to using spackle to fill in a gap in a concrete pillar. The surface can look smooth but not have the same strength or integrity as the concrete when initially constructed. Since the DEXA measures density, strontium can cause an error rate as high as 50%, in estimating actual real bone material according to some research studies found on Google Scholar.

The other important issue is that strontium, not being living bone, 'crowds' out calcium that might have filled in the gap itself in the course of bone renewal. That is, strontium has the ability to crowd out calcium. In the analogy cited above, consider the spackle filler permanent so it cannot later be replaced with actual concrete.

There were good reasons, including side effects, that strontium drugs for osteoporosis were taken off the market in Europe. And the remaining one available, in the U.K., is black labeled as a kind of last-ditch med for those with severe osteoporosis for whom no other available med can be used for other reasons. There are a few different forms of strontium and some are suitable included, in tiny amounts, in vitamin supplements among other trace minerals suitable for human ingestion. But there's no science that I could find recommending large doses for osteopenia or osteoporosis. And, again, since it integrates into bone but isn't shed in the normal course of events, it could make some of the drugs that actually grow bond not effective or recommended. I understand the notion of wanting to fill in lacey bone but a permanent inappropriate filler that the body isn't adapted to deal with in large amounts is not a solution at all.

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@callalloo

Strontium throws off the DEXA by filling in gaps and can replace calcium. But it's not bone or contributing to making bone. Compare it to using spackle to fill in a gap in a concrete pillar. The surface can look smooth but not have the same strength or integrity as the concrete when initially constructed. Since the DEXA measures density, strontium can cause an error rate as high as 50%, in estimating actual real bone material according to some research studies found on Google Scholar.

The other important issue is that strontium, not being living bone, 'crowds' out calcium that might have filled in the gap itself in the course of bone renewal. That is, strontium has the ability to crowd out calcium. In the analogy cited above, consider the spackle filler permanent so it cannot later be replaced with actual concrete.

There were good reasons, including side effects, that strontium drugs for osteoporosis were taken off the market in Europe. And the remaining one available, in the U.K., is black labeled as a kind of last-ditch med for those with severe osteoporosis for whom no other available med can be used for other reasons. There are a few different forms of strontium and some are suitable included, in tiny amounts, in vitamin supplements among other trace minerals suitable for human ingestion. But there's no science that I could find recommending large doses for osteopenia or osteoporosis. And, again, since it integrates into bone but isn't shed in the normal course of events, it could make some of the drugs that actually grow bond not effective or recommended. I understand the notion of wanting to fill in lacey bone but a permanent inappropriate filler that the body isn't adapted to deal with in large amounts is not a solution at all.

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isn't the mechanism of most osteoporosis drugs somewhat similar in this regard: From my layman's understanding of bisphosphonates is that they "increase" bone density by inhibiting the uptake of OLD BONE which is a natural body function. Old bone is removed and new bone laid down (like repairing cracked floor tiles or broken bricks, for example. When young, that process is regulated so that your bones don't shrink but as we age the laying down of NEW bone slows but the uptake of old bone stays the same so the net difference is bone LOSS.

With some osteo meds the UPTAKING OF OLD BONES is thwarted and giving an appearance of more volume but much of that volume is weak old bone. My understanding is that the weak old bone over time gets weaker and weaker which is why many women on these medications after 4 or 5 years can sustain a spontaneous femur fracture from doing nothing more than walking across a room. Same with jaw bone fractures during dental procedures.

Maybe there've been new studies contradicting that information but I haven't seen it yet.

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I am newly diagnosed with osteoporosis. After extensive research I was happy to come across this forum discussing strontium citrate.

Will someone please share their dosage and how long you plan to take it?

My physician is aware of my decision to take this mineral and forgo Fosomax, but sadly did not offer advice due to no studies and not FDA approved.

A little bit about me: I am a 56 year old female, in good general health. Nutrition and fitness has been important to me throughout my adult life.

Osteoporosis does run in my maternal side starting with grandmother and mother who sufferes osteoarthritis.
Thank you kindly.

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@savemybones

I am newly diagnosed with osteoporosis. After extensive research I was happy to come across this forum discussing strontium citrate.

Will someone please share their dosage and how long you plan to take it?

My physician is aware of my decision to take this mineral and forgo Fosomax, but sadly did not offer advice due to no studies and not FDA approved.

A little bit about me: I am a 56 year old female, in good general health. Nutrition and fitness has been important to me throughout my adult life.

Osteoporosis does run in my maternal side starting with grandmother and mother who sufferes osteoarthritis.
Thank you kindly.

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The therapeutic dose is 680mg. Strontium will throw off your DEXA scans, because it replaces calcium in the bones and is denser than calcium, so the DEXA will make your bone density look better than it is. Some radiologists know enough to make an adjustment, I have read.

Strontium ranelate, the prescription form in the UK, was off the market for a time due to cardiovascular risks. I believe it is back on the market but only for certain conditions (unable to take other meds?).

Strontium, if effective, is slower acting than some of the osteoporosis meds, so if you have severe osteoporosis, you might want to consider that.

If I cannot tolerate Reclast after Tymlos, I may consider it. I might also consider Evista.

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@breakdancer

I have been treated with bisphosphanates, forteo, prolia and I had 11 non-traumatic spontaneous vertebral compression fractures during treatment. I now take 680 mg strontium citrate without side effects and the fractures have stopped. Do not take it within 2 hours of ingesting calcium -- so I take it at bedtime. My teeth are really strong and it feels like my bones are too. Most people who take strontium citrate report their fractures STOP. They won't do any studies but the END OF FRACTURES SAYS IT ALL!
IT was a 9 year nightmare until I started the strontium citrate. Good luck to all of you.

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Very happy to hear! ❤️

Is there a particular Brand that you could share? Not all supplements are equal.

Thank you.

Merryn

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@savemybones

I am newly diagnosed with osteoporosis. After extensive research I was happy to come across this forum discussing strontium citrate.

Will someone please share their dosage and how long you plan to take it?

My physician is aware of my decision to take this mineral and forgo Fosomax, but sadly did not offer advice due to no studies and not FDA approved.

A little bit about me: I am a 56 year old female, in good general health. Nutrition and fitness has been important to me throughout my adult life.

Osteoporosis does run in my maternal side starting with grandmother and mother who sufferes osteoarthritis.
Thank you kindly.

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I had positive results using strontium capsules separated by 4 or more hours from liquid calcium magnesium. After over a year I went from osteoporosis to osteopenia. My doctors and I were all surprised at my results, but I never deviated to this day and it's been about 2 years. I turned down Fosamax. I got this advice from my Naturopathy doctor in Grass Valley, CA. I am so grateful.

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@maggiegirl1123

I had positive results using strontium capsules separated by 4 or more hours from liquid calcium magnesium. After over a year I went from osteoporosis to osteopenia. My doctors and I were all surprised at my results, but I never deviated to this day and it's been about 2 years. I turned down Fosamax. I got this advice from my Naturopathy doctor in Grass Valley, CA. I am so grateful.

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@maggiegirl1123 did the radiologist adjust the DEXA knowing you had taken strontium? Is your doctor aware of the issue of strontium making DEXA's look better? I am honestly asking because I am considering it after Tymlos if I cannot tolerate Reclast.

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Windyshores, After quickly reading your message this morning and not having enough time to respond anything earlier, it bothered me that I thought I had all the information, but probably did not. I haven't had time to question the radiologist readings. I have had everything thrown at me just in the past few months. Mainly, first I lost my Husband, my hero and partner in everything in December. Now I had to prepare for TKR in a week. This is a huge undertaking for me. I think this will be on my back burner for a little bit, but it will be bothering me until I ask more questions. Here I was so pleased with my results. Darn, but that's life. Thanks for giving me more food for thought. Sheryl

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@maggiegirl1123

Windyshores, After quickly reading your message this morning and not having enough time to respond anything earlier, it bothered me that I thought I had all the information, but probably did not. I haven't had time to question the radiologist readings. I have had everything thrown at me just in the past few months. Mainly, first I lost my Husband, my hero and partner in everything in December. Now I had to prepare for TKR in a week. This is a huge undertaking for me. I think this will be on my back burner for a little bit, but it will be bothering me until I ask more questions. Here I was so pleased with my results. Darn, but that's life. Thanks for giving me more food for thought. Sheryl

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@maggiegirl1123 oh my gosh, so sorry for your loss.

And some of those gains are no doubt real! Sometimes I comment just so other posters are aware.

I had a 20% gain in spine from Tymlos, or so I thought. My PCP said fractures and arthritis can make scores look better than they are. So for different reasons, I am in the same boat! I am going to investigate with endo.

If I cannot tolerate Reclast after Tymlos, I may try strontium myself, despite any risks. So I will share the uncertainty about DEXA's too.

Be well and take care of yourself in grief.

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