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Chronic severe nocturnal hypnic headaches

Sleep Health | Last Active: Sep 26, 2023 | Replies (239)

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@taterjoy

Hi @lisalucier ! I have not updated this thread for a long time! About 3.5 years ago, I had two very debilitating headaches (both migraine and nocturnal at the same time) and ended up in the ER, once while traveling. The ER MD in Florida thought I was having a stroke and did scans. He urged me to see help at Mayo Clinic as he noted my health insurance does not cover the most recent "biological" CGRPs to prevent migraines. I visited Mr. Mark Whealy at Mayo Rochester, and he was just amazing. He was able to validate by going online, that I had "tried" every headche medication and preventative available that was not contraindicated, except for the newest category (CGRP). He was saddened that my insurer at the time had no CGRP on formulary and would not even RX it for me to fill out of pocket at a local pharmacy. For two years he prescribed Emgality for me (via local Walgreens) which worked wonders to prevent the migraines (but not the nocturnal inflammatory headache). My insuror now has a CGRP (not Emgality) and I have been switched to Ajovy since it dramatically less expensive for me, and it works almost as well.

My nightly nocturnal headaches respond fairly well to 75mg indomethacin ER nightly two hours prior to bedtime, but my Mayo MD has encouraged me to slowly lower the dose to see if a lower dose (less risky for gastric bleeding) is sufficient. So far, I'm down to 50mgs but cannot go lower without awakening with a flaming headache all night long. I do take meds to prevent stomach ulcers (which Indomethacin can cause) and if I ever develop serious ulcers we will try something else--there are not many options. In follow-up, he has allow phone appointments and I am so very grateful, and my quality of life is so much improved! He told me my noctural headaches do not fall under criteria for Hypnic headaches since the Diagnostic manual changed the criteria for Hypnic headaches. He doesn't know what "type" it is, but if any new treatments come forth to prevent recurring inflammatory headaches, I will be on the radar as an eager trial candidate.

I would highly recommend Mayo Clinic to any person with severe, debilitating headaches that is not getting sufficient and "livable" results in treatment with their local or referral specialists.

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Replies to "Hi @lisalucier ! I have not updated this thread for a long time! About 3.5 years..."

Welcome back @taterjoy, It is great to see you back sharing your experience and especially good to hear you've found some answers. Thanks for giving this discussion some new life.

It sounds like the telephone appointments have made life a little easier for you. Have you done any video appointments with Mayo?