Hi Chris, thank you for the response. Never did a tincture. I don't like edibles, as the results are unpredictable. The vape scare was due to bootleg cartridges, which I do not buy. I have not seen any other issues with vaping. I also smoke a little in the eve, like the equivelent of half a joint. For what it's worth I just had a chest xray (some concern from my dr) and it was fine. I tried CBD in many forms, and nothing. Skin treatments were tried (lidocaine patch - rx strength), and nothing. The pain is deep, not on the skin. And please...no "shaking the finger". I've had this for 5 years. I have a Dorsal Root Ganglion implant, seen 2 pain mgt drs, a neurologist, an accupuncturist/alt medicine dr, 4 psychologists, 2 psychiatrists, and googled over 1K hours (including pubmed). My sensitivity for judgement, criticism, and anything remotely negative is near 0. This is a very taxing disease, and all I have are "tools" that each do a little at best. Unfortunately a little+ a little +a little + a little + a little = a little. No cure in sight, and I don't see any promising treatments out there. So yes, I'm a real crab-ass. thanks Arnie