@cerwin, @johnbishop tried any topical lotions? I have a lot of pain in my spine, mostly now lumbar and cervical, with worsening stenosis. Degenerative arthritis makes life interesting, never knowing how I'm going to feel, what and how badly I'll be hurting and it changes pretty fast, too. My back is tough. Very limiting, movement and activity are limited.

I heard a couple of folks on one of these group sites on Connect talking about using CBD cream. I bought some Garden of Life online, the intensive recovery lotion. I use CBD/THC tincture and it helps me a lot with anxiety and pain, helps me sleep quite well. So, I tried the lotion. The results were quite shocking. I get very fast relief from this lotion, almost total for a bit , then it gradually come back. Doesn't keep the pain at bay very long, but sure does give me some relief .

I also used Frankincense and Myrrh in coconut oil. It's a balm, that's all that's in it and it's from The Wise Men, online from Walmart or Amazon. I love the stuff. It's a strange consistency. hardens into a balm, melts on your fingers and in heat. use it either liquid form or balm. I love the fragrance, light and quite pleasant It seems to have healing powers that actually relive the back pain and It it wonderful on my feet and legs for neuropathy pain, tingling, etc. Also, both help my hands, they look and feel better and the arthritis in my hands/fingers/wrist is much less, much improved.

I'm frankly amazed at both these products. they work. Help me, relieve much of my pain. Maybe they'll help give you some relief as well. I hope so.
Blessings, elizabeth