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@lotsofpain

Thank you I recognise I cannot do it for myself particularly on my shoulders and back and I wanted to inform my physiotherapists tomorrow what pattern would be most effective so I want to tap into other people's experience

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Your therapists experience and training will allow them to find the best pattern for you, I think you should trust them to decide. It is very individual, and dependent upon your body, and there are dozens of variants. It is also a testing process - sometimes the first, or even second or third effort, need fine tuning to help in your situation.
As you have found, I am sure, there are no "instant cures" in dealing with bodies and pain.
Let me know what they finally recommend.
One tip - if they hit a pattern that works for you, have them take a picture on your cell phone for future reference.
Sue