@johnbishop, @loribmt and all....Please send me some suggestions re the best bird bird, backyard birds or whatever so I can identify these fellows. I now have some cardinal like birds, similar size and shape, have a fuzzy crest, velvety gray with a ting of rust on rear under tail feathers. Black beaks, black legs. Cardinals have red/orange beaks/legs. Breast is lighter gray, not white. Any idea?
Blessings folks. elizabeth

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