@scottij, Thanks for your response. Lived two yrs each in MN and NV but early marriage yrs and long before the gardening bug took over my life. Smiles Being in AZ now, you may appreciate that Thurs. I bought two succulents on "special" not knowing what species they were.

Once home the tiny printed tag for one said: "aloe ciliaris" or "climbing aloe". Research showed this grew fast and became huge. Not the traditional aloe plant I'd wanted! The other had no label attached. Will see if our arboretum or wild flower park will accept the huge climber!

Some of the annual seeds I save and sow each yr need very shallow sowing resulting in too many lost due to birds who have neon sight! This yr I'll soon be trying more in seed pots in the hopes that once sprouted the birds will find them of less interest! Wishing all who garden a season of beauty and success.