@donaldjames1 I find that the curable techniques help me manage my pain, more than get rid of it. I have heard that neuro plastic techniques do not work that well for eliminating nerve pain directly from Dr. Jonathan Kuttner who is a well known pain doc from New Zealand. He is actually another great doc to learn from, though. Another problem, as you know, is that chronic pain wears you so down, that it is hard to practice techniques that are learned. But when I am up to it, I try very hard to manage pain. Such a hard battle. LoriRenee1