@donaldjames1 Hi Donald, I am a chronic pain person as well, with peripheral neuropathy. First, I suggest that you research Kratom. Kratom is made from the leaf of SE Asian trees and is ground into powder and pills. It manages pain quite well. It is not FDA approved, and 5 states do not sell it. Go to the American Kratom Association to learn about it, and private message me if you want more information. Also, you might want to research Neuro plasticity and Dr. Norman Doidge on you tube. He teaches about how the brain gets very good at pain, and giving it to you! He also teaches ways to manage it, and basically, that you need to retrain your brain to feel less pain. I also bought an app for my computer called Curable, which helps to teach neuro plastic techniques in managing and lessening pain. In theory, if done consistently, it can rid you of pain entirely. The curable app cost about $50.00 for a year's service, and teaches you to teach your brain to stop giving you unnecessary pain signals. Based on theories of neuro plasticity, your brain can change, and stop hurting you. I have spent many hours listening to Dr. Norman Doidge, and I am practicing techniques to manage pain. I know that this allows me to not wallow in pain as much as I did. I really don't know if it will work to eliminate my pain, but I do already know that I manage it better. My best to you, LoriRenee1