@thumperguy, About wt loss, my doc said much the same...eat balanced diet...yada yada. Your post got me thinking...how long has it been since any doc has seen me completely or even partially naked? I more resemble an emaciated survivor of WWII internment camps now. No wonder docs only want to see me fully dressed!!

No response to that required..vbg. And all this time I'd been thinking that the doc's time was so limited per patient that was the reason for no partial undress....having to rethink the whole issue...lol

I was able to stop the nausea which led to my weight loss by stopping Metformin and taking ginger products. Like you, I've also managed to regain a bit of weight but not nearly enough. Thanks for the Amazon source for Orgain, I'll place an order. I like both chocolate and shakes but haven't found either to smooth the rough edges like a small dose of the harder spirits can...mebbe a small beer,whiskey or wine as a chaser before bed??? smiles