Thanks, I have tried everything. I am to a point now where anything makes me sick or have a lot of pain. I am not a diabetic so this is idiopathic. That means they do not know the cause. I had an open chole in 80's, 2 hernia repairs in same place. 2nd hernia repair in 2016 done through belly button. I wonder if he caused a problem with vagel nerve doing it that way. Thanks & keep safe.