@liv1020 & @cidmeyers Sounds to me like the neuropathy you are describing needs one more tweak in the treatment. I use about 1/4 teaspoon of kitchen turmeric in a glass of warm (not hot) water whenever the neuro gets too strong. That plus acetaminophen usually works pretty well. But do not take too much of either. Tramadol is addictive, and turmeric is a blood thinner, like warfarin. But this is all I have found for this same set of crap.