@fiesty76 Thanks I don't know what's causing it but one thing looking down at computer .Fibro makes it hurt as this is one of my trigger points When I retired I tried to keep busy everyday like I was working still Now there's no rush so I sit when tired.Mot rushing anymore 😀 at night like you I do something enjoyable and turn Electronics off around 9 so I sleep better .Thanks for your friendship here fiesty76