@johnbishop We have wild blackberries in the vacant lots behind us, and I merrily gathered them last year. We pulled out most of those stinking invasive blackberries on our northern edge of property. While I thought they were helping to hold up the hillside, I found they were instead covering up a beautifully rock terraced section pouring into a flat spot. Long term plans are to develop that area into a resting nook with bench and flowers.

The deer have discovered my baby yellow roses. But here is a rich red one from next to it, that they don't touch.
Ginger