@gingerw I haven't been doing many stretches recently because of my knee. the pain keeps moving around but I can tell it's coming from my knee. It's so frustrating that we can't see our Drs or our physios at the moment. I did have a good video appointment with my dermatologist last week. It was kind of neat. I had to connect to the medical video 10 minutes before my appointment and when I had connected, I was put in 'the waiting room' . I didn't have to wait too long and then my Dr's face appeared. It was like face time. It doesn't work too well for examining a knee. I think your knee maybe worse than mine but I would like some therapy. Good luck with yours. I am trying to avoid moves that hurt but I am still walking. I am 80 on Thursday. I can't believe it. Keep up the good work everybody.