Hi John @johnbishop thanks for the link to the other discussion on nerve stimulators. Lori @lorirenee1 I wonder if you know about this as well? One person, Carl @cbrackle has had a drg in for 3 years. Just fyi in case you are not aware of his story. He posts about it at the discussion John mentioned. There are other people there as well. It's good to gather as much info from experienced users of these devices as possible. Hank