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Hi @jimhd and thanks for your comment. I guess we all suffer a lot no matter what end of the spectrum we are with regards our pain levels. It's very tough being in chronic pain. It does seem like I was hit with something particularly nefarious though, unfortunately 🙁 I have had no muscle or skin puncture test. Excuse my ignorance, but is this the same or a different procedure to a skin biopsy? (which I've also not had).
I was also thinking about asking about a nerve biopsy along one of the dermatomes where I describe pain or get fasciculations. But I feel like this won't be offered to me due to lack of EMG / NCS finding.
If the DNA testing you mean are from the blood tests I listed (like HLA-B27) then the answer is no, I tested negatively for that gene. I tested negatively for everything and / or all numbers were normal with one exception: I had vitamin D insufficiency (not deficiency). I am supplementing for that now... presumably it was caused by being caucasian and stuck indoors for 20 months... welp!
EDIT: just adding this comment here because I can't seem to edit my main post at the moment. I also have had skin rash and discoloration along two dermatomes. Steroid cream helped reduce the rash, but I was left with permanent skin discoloration. My left foot is hotter than my right. In general the left extremity is much worse than right. Although the symptoms seem symmetric, just not at the same intensity, which is what makes it asymmetric.
@timsdeece Hi Tim. What I'm thinking from your story is that the pain may not be spine related, it may be a physical problem. There are syndromes involving the pelvis and it's alignment that cause sciatic pain and mimic spine problems, and you also describe some edema in the right SI joint which says to me that there may be misalignment, but I'm not a doctor. Perhaps someone could read your imaging and look for pelvis alignment issues that can cause nerve entrapment. Your tests are indicating that your nerve conduction is normal, so this might make sense. I have have SI joints that don't always stay where they belong and it causes my pelvis to twist out of shape. Sometimes there is an upslip on one side, or an inflare of the ilium bone. With your history of running, you could have a similar issue. When my pelvis is out, I do get pain on one side of my low back, and realigning fixes it and I have had sciatic pain from time to time. I do also have a bulging lumbar disc that is asymptomatic and will crack and reset itself on rotation. I also have thoracic outlet syndrome and have general body tightness from my jaw/neck to my pelvis and ankle. The physical therapy I do for this is fascial stretching with the John Barnes methods. You've also had surgery, and that creates scar tissue and tightness in the fascia and will tighten any tightness that is there. I have been doing MFR for several years and it helped me have a great recovery from my spine surgery which was a C5/C6 fusion for cervical stenosis. When you learn about MFR, you can also learn to self treat with stretches between your therapy visits. In addition to MFR after my spine surgery, what has helped me the most strength-wise is riding my horse and building core strength by doing that with good posture. MFR is a process of releasing tight layers and may take many sessions to work, but you may notice it helping right away, but in smaller steps. It has helped me a lot, and it will get the body aligned and moving better.
There is a physical therapist in Norway who writes about this syndrome and he has a lot of good articles on his website. Check it out and see what you think. Here is the link. He writes for physical therapists, so it is very detailed.
Entrapment syndromes of the lumbar plexus https://trainingandrehabilitation.com/identify-treat-lumbar-plexus-compression-syndrome-lpcs/
You may also want to read about myofascial release as there is a lot of information in our Connect discussion.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/
Here is a link to some MFR therapists in the UK. I didn't see any listings for Ireland.
https://www.mfrtherapists.com/app/list.asp?state=&country=UK
I hope some of this will help. I have to say that I love Ireland and have been there once. It's a beautiful country. My grandmother came to America from Cork on a steam ship 5 years before Titanic. I came across from England on the ferry into Waterford, and I still have relatives in County Mayo. If any of this helps you, I hope you'll check back in and let us know how you are doing. You could use the luck of the Irish about now.
Be assured that you're not alone at the end of the road. There are many of us hanging out in that very place
Jim
@timsdeece I'm sorry for your situation and can related just to the frustration of not knowing what is wrong and having a thick costly pile of bills and results to still not be 100 percent certain. I can tell you that from my own experience that Lyme tests are very inaccurate and I've come to the conclusion that tests are just a tool but the symptoms are more telling then the test - usually. I had 4 tests, 2 were same type of specific Lyme test that gave me very different results. So, you could further pursue Lyme by finding a Functional Lyme literate MD but that is a project in itself due to it being pay out of pocket usually. Has anyone mentioned possible CPT disease that affects muscle pain made worse by exercise? Here is a link: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/carnitine-palmitoyltransferase-ii-deficiency
Seems like your nerves are affected based on clothing sensitivity and nerve stuff seems so hard to figure out. I wish you better days of health ahead.
So sorry to hear this story because my spouse has been on a similar path. But we found something that helps us. Maybe it will help you. This is our experience.
My spouse was badly hurt in a hit and run. Three surgeries and they still had bone on bone back pain. Walking, sitting and even lying down brought pain. They were sent to multiple doctors, compiling test results and enduring therapies and meds including ketamine for depression. Many treatments seemed to worsen pain and decrease restful sleep. They tried CBD with no impact. Opioid and sleep meds made things worse because they developed dangerous sleep apnea. This went on for over nine years. We both became more anxious and depressed.
Last year, after marijuana was legalized in our area, and at the urging of a disabled friend, they finally tried smoking and then vaping the THC derivative of marijuana. We had little expectation of help because of their CBD experience. But THC is different and finding the right version for them did help. Their inflammation and pain decreased from the first day. Sleep apnea greatly improved within weeks so a CPAP is not needed now. The pain is bearable most of every day. They have withdrawn from all pain and sleep meds.
Now our concern is about the effects of smoking and vaping, especially on the lungs and cognition. We are looking into tinctures because edibles didn't work well. But bottom line is that today is the best they have felt in nearly a decade and it is easier to exercise and make healthier food choices.
Don't give up looking for what will help you.
Hello @timsdeece -- I see that you recently joined Connect and would like to welcome you. I'm sorry you are having trouble trying to get a diagnosis and find a treatment that helps you. There is another discussion similar to yours where your post may receive more visibility with other members sharing similar symptoms. I'm tagging our moderator @lisalucier to see if we should move your post to the following discussion:
> Groups > Brain & Nervous System > Undiagnosed, numbness, tingling, Muscle weakness and more
-- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/undiagnosed-numbness-tingling-muscle-weakness-and-more/
@jenniferhunter posted some information in the first post in the above discussion that may be helpful for you. Here is the link to her post in the above discussion: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/undiagnosed-numbness-tingling-muscle-weakness-and-more/?pg=1#comment-343210
From your post I know that you have seen a lot of different doctors and specialists. Have you thought about getting a second option at a major teaching hospital or health facility like Mayo Clinic? If you would like to seek help from Mayo Clinic, contact one of the appointment offices. The contact information for Minnesota, Arizona and Florida can be found here http://mayocl.in/1mtmR63.