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Calcium and Vitamin D for bone density

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Please add vitamin K2 (mk4, mk7) and boron to what you are currently taking. Look for Dr. Jorge Fleches on You Tube - he is a graduate from a famous hospital in California, Loma Linda. He has osteoporosis and started taking boron - he stopped losing his height. I've been taking it for over a year and a half now - and I've stopped losing inches also. Boron has taken all of my arthritis pain. Ruth Bader Ginsburg ate prunes all the time - prunes have boron (just not enough). I take two 3 mg capsules of boron with breakfast, lunch and dinner and two before bed if I need it. Dr. Fleches swears by boron for osteoporosis - and the relief from arthritis and fibromyalgia is a bonus. I was also diagnosed with osteoporosis (severe) at a young age. I had a pituitary tumor that robbed me of a lot of essential hormones. My last test was -5.7 (DEXA) and I was fracturing. Since I added boron, I stopped fracturing. I need to get another DEXA scan but my doctor wants me to wait until the pandemic is under control. I am a gardener living in CA and when I had my vitamin D level tested, it came back at 3 ng/ml - which is horrible. I have since gotten it up to 90 ng/ml which is where I feel best. The vitamin K2 (mk4, mk7) makes sure the calcium you are ingesting goes to your bones - not to your arteries or kidneys. You can do a Google search to The Ultimate Vitamin K Resource by Chris Masterjohn, Ph.D. I have posted a link to it here many times, and will look for it again. We aren't supposed to post websites here - but the moderators allowed it last time. I would tell you to ask your doctor about boron - but I have NOT found even one doctor who knows what it is! The upper limit for taking boron has been arbitrarily set at 20 mg/day - but I know many who go over. I go up to 24 mg, but some people are taking 100 mg or more for osteoporosis. It increases the amount of estrogen in your body if you go above 20 mg, and that is why they say to stay at 20 mg or less. But I also have a low estrogen patch because I was desperate to stop fracturing. It's 0.025 mg, and you only need 60% of the patch - so I cut maybe a quarter of the patch off. But according to Dr. Fleches, the boron is key. You can get it from Amazon for dirt cheap. I couldn't use my hands for anything due to rheumatoid arthritis that has dogged me for decades. Now I can crochet and play piano again! NO arthritis pain and I am no longer getting shorter or fracturing! Give it a try if you wan, esst. You really have lost a lot of height ess77. I'm sorry this happened to you - to all of us.

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Thanks for the sharing. I've taken potassium in fairly large doses for many years. My aldosterone doesn't do it's job, primary aldosteronism. So, spirolactone and postassium and now tyroid meds do the trick. Important to have our homones involved in all this stuff, all the testing. They affect all our systems and are kind of sneaky that way.....sneak into the picture and are often overlooked by the docs. Also, it's so important to stay on top of the tests so we keep everything balanced. I guess I'm so tuned into my body now, after dealing with all this junk for so long, after fighting for so long to get proper help and resolution.....I look at my doctors now as my health partner. That's a good change for me........Be well, stay safe.

Dear Parrotqueen, have you had any GI upset from taking the bar on as you take it? I have only been taking 3 mg twice a day with meals and that was going to be my next question, do you take it with a meal?

I tried to take strontium separately from my calcium that is, two hours before or after I take calcium in a meal but, it just tore apart my stomach! So then I learned it was okay to take it with food as long as it wasn't near any calcium food. So I will try to give that another try but suppose I should wait to see if I can tolerate more boron 1st.

Once again, thank you for your great tips and information! I am seriously grateful! I hope you are doing well, at minimum much better than tolerable.

Many blessings, Sunny flower