What's the evidence on Calcium and Vitamin D for bone density?

Posted by ellerbracke @ellerbracke, Oct 1, 2019

A recent bone density test came back in the low average range for my age. My OBGYN recommended calcium and vitamin D. I checked with a family member who is a pharmacist, and she says that the benefits of calcium supplements are not clear cut. Regarding vitamin D, I’m in the sunbelt, and spend at least 2 hours per day outdoors during 8 to 9 months a year (early morning, or evening, sun screen between 10 AM and 5 PM if applicable for pool, beach, for example). I’m sure many people on this forum have done their own research regarding the benefits of calcium pills, and I would love to hear what the current consensus is. I exercise regularly, so my bones get a workout from the muscles pulling on them, if that makes a difference. I think the data I was given is that statistically I have an 8% chance of a hip fracture in the next decade, based on the test results.

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I never thought about that so I understand

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@lioness

Parrot Queen can you eat spinach I usually put spinach in with my kale Google writes for me so he messes up a lot

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Yes I can eat spinach - but I don't' eat it often because of the oxalates. I have a kidney stone. But I can sneak in a little here and there. The vegetables I cannot eat are potatoes, beans, root vegetables - they are high in sugar or they are high in things that can. be converted to sugar very quickly.

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@rappva13

my doctor does a vitamin d 25 hydroxy every 6 months. I have severe osteoporosis I take 10,000mg every day plus a prolia shoot every 6 months.

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@rappva13 Since writing that post my PCP did have me tested for vitamin D and I was somewhat low so I am now taking 50,000 IU once a week. He prescribed D2 and I have asked two other doctors if it should be D3; they both said that D2 was fine too. Of course I always wonder if one doctor will contradict another. I see the endo who will be handling my osteoporosis in January so I will know more then. He is not a local doctor, he's in Boston, so I think I can believe him more than I can local doctors.
JK

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@contentandwell

@rappva13 Since writing that post my PCP did have me tested for vitamin D and I was somewhat low so I am now taking 50,000 IU once a week. He prescribed D2 and I have asked two other doctors if it should be D3; they both said that D2 was fine too. Of course I always wonder if one doctor will contradict another. I see the endo who will be handling my osteoporosis in January so I will know more then. He is not a local doctor, he's in Boston, so I think I can believe him more than I can local doctors.
JK

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My vit d levels were borderline low 2 years ago. My endocrinologist told me to take 2000i.u. daily. Next blood test showed levels had gone up. (cannot remember how long I waited to do the retest). Still on the 2000iu a day as per doctor's advice along with Prolia injections.

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I take 2,000 IU daily of Vitamin D3 just to remain at the level I am at - which is 80-90 ng/ml. When I started I was at 3 ng/ml which is horrible. Sue225, please check into Vitamin K2 (MK4 and MK7) and discuss it with your doctor if you have questions (although MANY doctors haven't got a clue about Vitamin K2 as it is rather new). I have found an excellent source of information about Vitamin K2 that you might want to read and share with your doctor, https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/blog/2016/12/09/the-ultimate-vitamin-k2-resource/

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@contentandwell

@rappva13 Since writing that post my PCP did have me tested for vitamin D and I was somewhat low so I am now taking 50,000 IU once a week. He prescribed D2 and I have asked two other doctors if it should be D3; they both said that D2 was fine too. Of course I always wonder if one doctor will contradict another. I see the endo who will be handling my osteoporosis in January so I will know more then. He is not a local doctor, he's in Boston, so I think I can believe him more than I can local doctors.
JK

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JK, Please check out https://www.diffen.com/difference/Vitamin_D2_vs_Vitamin_D3 and see what you think about the differences between D2 and D3. You can find thousands of websites talking about the differences between D2 and D3. D2 is not as "fine" as D3 is. I cannot understand why any doctor would tell you to take D2. D3 is for building bones in humans. And as I mentioned below, please check into Vitamin K2 (MK4 and MK7) which seems to be very promising for bone health. Here is something you can read about K2 (MK4 and MK7). I buy a wonderful supplement from Amazon for my vitamin K2. Not many doctors know about K2 yet. I think it might be the key we have been looking for. Here is the best source of information I have yet to find on K2: https://www.diffen.com/difference/Vitamin_D2_vs_Vitamin_D3

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@parrotqueen

JK, Please check out https://www.diffen.com/difference/Vitamin_D2_vs_Vitamin_D3 and see what you think about the differences between D2 and D3. You can find thousands of websites talking about the differences between D2 and D3. D2 is not as "fine" as D3 is. I cannot understand why any doctor would tell you to take D2. D3 is for building bones in humans. And as I mentioned below, please check into Vitamin K2 (MK4 and MK7) which seems to be very promising for bone health. Here is something you can read about K2 (MK4 and MK7). I buy a wonderful supplement from Amazon for my vitamin K2. Not many doctors know about K2 yet. I think it might be the key we have been looking for. Here is the best source of information I have yet to find on K2: https://www.diffen.com/difference/Vitamin_D2_vs_Vitamin_D3

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@parrotqueen I was able to get an appointment on Wednesday, a month sooner than I had been scheduled, and with the Director of the Bone Density Center. She had been my first choice but was scheduling in April. She had a cancellation so I grabbed it. I will decide what I am doing after meeting with her.

Regarding supplements, there are very few allowed by my transplant team since most are produced without the regulation and inspections that drugs are subject to.
Thanks for your concern. The article is good. I’ll be curious to hear what the doctor says. Frankly my PCP prescribed the D2 and my confidence in him has gotten very low.
JK

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@parrotqueen

Yes I can eat spinach - but I don't' eat it often because of the oxalates. I have a kidney stone. But I can sneak in a little here and there. The vegetables I cannot eat are potatoes, beans, root vegetables - they are high in sugar or they are high in things that can. be converted to sugar very quickly.

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@parrotqueen So try to liquefy what you can and add the collagen to it , I have even put it In tea or coffee not bad

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@contentandwell

@parrotqueen I was able to get an appointment on Wednesday, a month sooner than I had been scheduled, and with the Director of the Bone Density Center. She had been my first choice but was scheduling in April. She had a cancellation so I grabbed it. I will decide what I am doing after meeting with her.

Regarding supplements, there are very few allowed by my transplant team since most are produced without the regulation and inspections that drugs are subject to.
Thanks for your concern. The article is good. I’ll be curious to hear what the doctor says. Frankly my PCP prescribed the D2 and my confidence in him has gotten very low.
JK

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Where is the bone density center? Keep us posted.

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