@resawaller I saw where you posted about your fibromyalgia. I have had it for along time. I just had a bad flare you cant do anything to help with that I have a lot in my tool box for fibro . I use ice , ginger turmeric tea all are anti inflammatory as inflammation causes most pain. I use heat or hot shower helps immensely. Of course massage,resting a lot helps. Fibro com says we need more magnesium then most people so I take 600 mg. a day . Tramadol 50 for pain when nothing else helps. Epsom salts wash or bath . Apple cider vinegar also helps use a washcloth to apply . Light exercise isometric exercise also. Hope some may help you .