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Anxiety Issues (with added GERD)

Mental Health | Last Active: Sep 4, 2019 | Replies (17)

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@renwald

That may well be true but the way you described it doesn’t necessarily follow as cause and effect.

To be more on target, there would need to be some body of evidence and research with peer review that isolated specific medicines, their molecular structures and the precise way they were interacting with the body. This would have to be done with each medicine and they simply cannot be lumped together that way.

People with mental illnesses already have comorbid conditions that can be misleading with such a claim and it’s no secret that with bipolar and depressive disorders, poor stress management, dietary and exercise habits, sleep habits, self medication all play an enormous role.

Likewise, age, gender, ethnicity, geography, uncontrolled blood pressure, cholesterol, predilection for metabolic syndrome and diabetes, thyroid disorders and genetics all directly impact the individual patient.

Generalized symptoms of raving pulse for a person that has panic disorders, anxiety, and PTSD and who takes medicine for those mental disorders would certainly be no stranger to elevated heart rates and increased BP.

The types of “heart damage” that you refer to is quite vague. If you wanted to talk about congestive heart failure, then I think the order is a tall one considering how that comes about, let alone thousands of cases among all types of patients and medicines for mental health.

Arteriosclerosis leading to infarction? Many of the aforementioned factors individually or combined are a fast track to those and I’m unfamiliar with any single ( let alone categorical) drug for mental illness that acts like the infamous phen phen that demonstrably led to potentially fatal pulmonary hypertension and heart valve problems.

Sudden cardiac death? You’d hear about that in short order, especially among the younger patients not in any risk categories. When significant numbers of young physically healthy (I didn’t say mentally) people drop dead the CDC leaps to its feet. Just look at the history around Hantavirus. To my knowledge, no report of sudden upticks in sudden cardiac death among people fit or otherwise taking psychiatric meds has occurred with one medicine, let alone more than one.

So we have to ask several questions:

What specific medicine(s) are causing this? Anything other than specifics is really a useless if not harmful claim.

Who is doing the reporting and the verifiable basis for their claims? The vast body of evidence from thousands of pathology reports and double bind studies would be needed.

What specific heart and cardiovascular damage is being alleged? That is critical too.

What is the breakdown of demographics, co-morbid conditions, patient habits, health etc that can be excluded?

I’m not sure where the information comes from that forms the basis of your report but it would be worth knowing before accepting at face value. As you likely well know, the alternative to eliminating mental health medicines can indeed be lethal. The impacts, lethal and non, affecting the individual, family, workplace and other factors vast.

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I've had alll kinds of tests run and nothing shows up. I've had a 48 hr heart monitor, blood tests, etc. and everything is normal. Idk what to do or who to go to now. I have both Panic and Anxiety disorder too. I dont know what to do anymore.