Debbra: Thanks. Hope you enlarged the photo.... point I was trying to make that this particular type of raspberry (which I grew up with in Austria) is simply not available anywhere I’ve seen in the greater local area (nor, even though the climate would be much more beneficial, have I seen those in northwestern Oregon). Happen to have son living there, so I pay attention to their climate and local produce. So I bear with the downside of growing them, which is somewhat labor intensive. But don’t they look (and really taste) delicious?