@trellg How did you hurt your lower back? All my back problems started when I fractured it .Now the bones have all shifted downward pluse I fell on the ice back east that didn't help my lower back. Have you had xrays? I have loads of arthritis in my back now . Cant do anything about this but I use Arnica cream which helps a lot. Other things I use is ice,heating pad Tens unit, Epsom salts. You have to find what works for you we are all different.