Anyone else have a Redundant / Tortuous Colon?

Posted by onaquest @onaquest, Nov 7, 2018

Hello. Anyone else out there that has a redundant/ tortured colon? I was diagnosed with this a few years ago. I’m usually ok, but if I get constipated, I get sick for a week or two. Last year my gastroenterologist referred me to a surgeon for urgent surgery to remove some of my colon. The surgeon I ended up seeing (not on the recommended list by my gastro doc due to others not available for a long time) said he believed I could live with the redundant colon if I followed a low FODMAP diet. I tried the diet religiously, scientifically (I’m a scientist), and I found it’s not the food I eat that causes these bouts of constipation. The only item I’ve found that might cause the bouts is coffee every day. An occasional coffee seems fine. What has helped me stay regular in a big way is Benefiber (or any pure wheat dextrose generic) three times per day. Lots of fluid.

My gastro doc was upset with the surgeon and said I’d regret not having the surgery. He fears I will end up in an emergency situation. I have searched the Mayo site and don’t find anything about redundant/ tortured colon. Are any Mayo docs doing research or treat this condition? Anyone else suffer from this too?
Thank you! -Jayne

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thank you all for generously sharing. I've struggled with constipation all my life. I just found out about my redundant colon. I am very active. 1 1/2 hour yoga sessions four times a week, I had appendecitis last fall and then colonoscopy But the constipation has gotten worse. I thought it was because I started taking Adderall. But my psychiatrist said that the 5-10mg is not going make such a difference. today, in my yoga class we focused on twists. It helped. I am waiting for authorization for Linzess. ( I used to take 2000 mg of Mg, but since Feb, nothing works. And, as others have said, then the vicious cycle of not eating enough starts....)

like everyone here, I 've tried fiber,laxatives, etc. I tried a ayurvedic/vatta pacifying diet. even though I'm not much of a meat eater, meat soup is good for me.

based on what read here, i'm putting an app in my phone to remind to drink.

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@bonn

Please know that I do understand. Your story could be mine! I am 72 yrs old and have suffered with the pain you are describing for over 20 years. I've had numerous scans, colonoscopies, ER visits, and hospitalizations and still no answers. Doctors just blame it on being constipated which I do suffer from, but, why am I so constipated when I do everything to avoid that......eating fruits, vegetables, exercise daily, and drink a ton of water, etc. I have also tried acupuncture, hypnosis, and pelvic floor PT. My last appointment with the gastroenterologist resulted in her saying she just doesn't know what to do for me but did suggest that this could be scar tissue around my colon. She said there really isn't a scan that detects that well and I'd need to undergo exploratory surgery to find it. According to the doc, removing the scar tissue and the cutting for the surgery would just cause more scar tissue down the road so it really is a catch 22. I am working hard now on trying to find some answers on my own by trying any suggestions I find on this site and a few other sites. I have experienced several days now free of excruciating pain by taking Atrantil and Triphala daily. I don't know if this will be a long-term solution or not, but, I will take what I can get for now. I want to feel comfortable traveling, plan things with my kids and grandkids, just meeting up with friends without worrying about being in pain and needing to cancel my plans. Feel free to reach out to me if for nothing else than to know you are not alone!

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does triphala work? which brand? the Sprouts' store's brand is crap (pun intended)

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Hi
I was diagnosed today. Also he bottom bit is redundant. I've had problems my entire life, especially with urinary frequency as it's sitting on my bladder. Also gas and constipation. I blamed diabetes type 1 and codeine dependence (which don't help). Now I guess will try that diet.

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@sher71

Hi Judy, I too have just recently been diagnosed with Redundant, Fixed, Ridged colon. I requested a consult with a nutritionist and that has given me even more questions! I've been searching the web for different solutions to constipation and found a lot of different approaches. I don't have diverticulitis so your probably much different from me. I have horrible constipation and never get "the runs". I recently got a book called "what the heck should I eat" and am reading it now. It's not directly addressing my issues but it is VERY informative. I recommend it. I too had lost a lot of weight, was down to 98 lbs. (5'2") :o( But of course, my gut was bloated and "angry" so I looked about 3 months pregnant. YUK. The bloating, not being able to get rid of gas, and not pooping were driving me crazy. I just want to feel normal. It certainly makes it hard to do anything in a social setting and 'romance' has been out of the question. I'd love my life back! I feel best when I don't eat. You too? Ok, so things I'm doing to try to help myself. First, water. LOTS of water. I fill a jug with the ounces marked on it every morning and that makes it easy to track how much I've had for the day. My goal is 60 oz. (more than 1/2 my weight in oz.) I started a food journal, keeping track of everything I eat and drink. I make side notes if I feel gassy or bloaty after I eat that food. I write if I had a BM that day or not and the consistency. I am trying 2 stool softeners and 1 500mg Magnesium every night and eating a low fiber diet. I need to get back to walking everyday, which I've skipped because I felt so bad. But even if you feel bad the walk makes you feel better. It's winter here and icy and cold! So I just purchased a treadmill. Hoping that makes a difference as well. Don't ever feel like your Dr.'s office is getting tired of you. You are your own advocate! You need to keep asking and get referrals if they can't help. I'm finding that most Dr.'s don't deal with this well. Let me know if you want to chat or have questions. We're all in this together. Hope this was helpful. Sometimes its just nice to know your not alone. :o) Sherrie (Pete is my nick name)

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What a great response. I'm going to try all your suggestions!

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@nixbroome

What a great response. I'm going to try all your suggestions!

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Hi @nixbroome, and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. You came to a great place to get answers. I am sorry you have been dealing with this for so long. How have you handled treatment in the past before you were diagnosed? Are you referring to the FODMAP diet? Here is a great video on Connect about that specific diet and how to navigate it.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/page/gastroenterology-and-gi-surgery/newsfeed-post/a-map-for-the-fodmap-diet/

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Thanks for the nifty image of your colon! I have had esophagrams which seem to show a tortuous esophagus. Many in my family as well as myself, have tortuous blood vessels. My femoral arteries, the usual route for cardiac catherization tools to get to the heart, are described as tortuous. Being old at 79, I have more fecal incontinence as well as urinary frequency. Pelvic Floor Therapy with wise counselling by a specialty therapist was very helpful. I now use three Kirkland fiber capsules at night, at least one Medjool date (what a treat) a day, and hope to increase my fresh vegetables and fruits as we welcome Pacific Northwest Springtime garden foods. The National Institutes of Health has a rare condition website with more information about Tortuosity syndromes. Each condition webpage has a reference to an information specialist who can provide more recent information: https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/774/arterial-tortuosity-syndrome

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@ceclark41

Thanks for the nifty image of your colon! I have had esophagrams which seem to show a tortuous esophagus. Many in my family as well as myself, have tortuous blood vessels. My femoral arteries, the usual route for cardiac catherization tools to get to the heart, are described as tortuous. Being old at 79, I have more fecal incontinence as well as urinary frequency. Pelvic Floor Therapy with wise counselling by a specialty therapist was very helpful. I now use three Kirkland fiber capsules at night, at least one Medjool date (what a treat) a day, and hope to increase my fresh vegetables and fruits as we welcome Pacific Northwest Springtime garden foods. The National Institutes of Health has a rare condition website with more information about Tortuosity syndromes. Each condition webpage has a reference to an information specialist who can provide more recent information: https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/774/arterial-tortuosity-syndrome

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Thank you for this!

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@lesliedenny

I was just diagnosed after a painful colonoscopy. Unfortunately, the doctor didn’t stop to talk aboutit so I am doing my own research. For the last several years, since my last coloscopy, I have had episodes where I cannot relieve myself then it feels like I am going to pass out, followed by a drop in blood pressure with cold sweats. These episodes take up to 30 minutes to finish and I have to lie down afterward. I am wondering if they are related. I certainly appreciate everyone’s experience and input.

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Almost exact same experience, doctor did not talk to me after colonoscopy, but I read the summary of the colonoscopy and it said the sigmoid colon significantly tortuous,did research and now I know why I have the occasional issues like you stated , severe cramping diarrhea, cold sweats, and it lasts for close to an hour, then I am somewhat exhausted after, but then the rest of the day is normal. My doctor does want to have a follow up appointment. I see your post is from three years ago. How are you doing now?

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LONG FIBER VEGES IS THE KEY!

I haven't seen this suggestion in this thread. I've had problems with constipation since I was a kid, but heard the phrase "tortuous colon" for the first time when I turned 50 yrs. old and had my first colonoscopy. What works for me is vegetables with long fibers - especially celery (raw) and asparagus (lightly cooked). The asparagus is the best. I've made it a mainstay of my diet. I cook it different ways to keep it interesting, although lightly roasting it in a 375 degree oven for about 10-13 minutes (depending on thickness of the vegetable) works best for me. I season it with garlic and herbs. I also think kale has long fibers, but I haven't found a decent way to prepare that vege. Asparagus is a great vege and it provides lots of health benefits beyond the fiber - so it's a great addition to any diet. Also, like many have said here - lots of water all day long.

In my opinion, eating celery (great with lunch - add some carrots!) and asparagus is a natural way to help your colon move things along without completely changing your diet. I love food as much as the next person, but don't want to have a special diet that interferes with my life. I stay active (walking, hiking, strength training), drink a good amount of water and use "outside help" (i.e., laxatives) only when absolutely needed.

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@pacificnw The way I can eat Celery, Asparagus, and Kale is to chop into chunks no longer that 1/2"... Kale I chop well and even resort to the food processor.. to get the vitamins and all ... Kale with poached pears are great.. ...I like Aparagus and Celery crunchy so steamed very little..

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