Hank, as you well know by now, were it not for my intimate relationship w/ our Lord Jesus, and the medications, I would have never, ever made it this far!!!!! Pain hurts so everyone that has it is in the same place. I have my times (only occasionally every other minute or so-JK), I reach my human threshholds but I am deliberate about keeping my heart/spirit right and not complaining. I am beyond grateful that no matter how hard it gets, and believe me it gets hard, that I am always acutely aware of my innumerable blessings and, still have the peace of Christ which surpasses human understanding. Grateful, Sunnyflower