Have extreme fatigue but just below what I can ignore so feel exhausted every day but don't work to change just that.

Elden @elden -- welcome to Connect. Fatigue can be crushing. Have you tried any treatments or been recommended any treatments by your doctor? Have you ever been tested for sleep apnea? The reason I ask is while I don't feel I have chronic fatigue I have been tired a lot during the daytime and recently while being treated for another condition was tested and found out I have obstructive sleep apnea. I was surprised at the statistics of how many people have it and do not know they have it. I certainly didn't know and didn't think I had it. You might want to check out the following discussions:

Groups > Just Want to Talk > Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) treatments
-- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myalgic-encephalomyelitis-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-me-cfs-treatments/

Groups > Autoimmune Diseases > Autoimmune Diseases and Fatigue
-- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/autoimmune-diseases-and-fatigue/

Groups > Sleep Health > Sleep Apnea and CPAP machines
-- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/sleep-apnea-29d741/

John

I have same exhaustion and joint pain- maybe “long Covid”?! Although I test negative! Palo Alto Doctors haven’t got a clue!?! Any pain pill ideas?

Well at least you can sleep. Which is a big problem for me lately. Sleep for a couple of hours then I am up all night long watching TV and thinking. Cleaned my apartment no one is up at this hour. Playing games can be stressful because I am not into them. Trying to count my blessings.