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Can I go from daily Morphine to pain control from CBD oil

Posted by 1oldcarnut @1oldcarnut, Mar 16, 2018

I am new at this, so please give me some leeway.
I currently take 2 60mg ER morphine with 3 30 mg fast acting for break thru pain. I have been at this amount for at least 6 years now.
There are many problems taking morphine and with the current anti drug climate I am looking for other ways to manage my pain.

My hopes lean in the direction of CBD oil, and I have had some good results with it so far. It probably will work from 50 to 60% of the time.
I am thinking that I can use CBD oil with THC for the times CBD doesn't work by itself.
One hope I have is I will not be as physically dependent on the CBD and THC as I am on Morphine. Maybe even have some normal days.

My question to the group is, Has any one had any experience in this regard? Will the CBD with THC help me with my withdrawal from the morphine?
My actual time on morphine is close to 14 years. The hardest question is will I be jumping from the frying pan to the fire?

I know I am asking a lot but any help or personal experience would be a great help.
1oldcarnut

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | May 1, 2020
In reply to @elsa "I'm a 64 year old woman who had been taking morphine (anywhere from 60-120mg/day) and hydrocodone..." + (show)
@elsa

I'm a 64 year old woman who had been taking morphine (anywhere from 60-120mg/day) and hydrocodone (up to [3] 5/325/day) for 8 years. In March of 2018 I went through Mayo's Pain Rehabilitation 3-week program. It was the best thing I ever did for my pain! I was able to get off the opiates as well as 2 benzodiazepines (for anxiety) and methylphenidate (an ADD drug). My pain is fairly severe, ranging from a "2" on a very good morning, to an "8/9" on bad days. I now manage my pain through exercise, mindfulness, diaphragmatic breathing, and distraction. Also I still take 1800mg of gabapentin/day.
Recently I tried CBD oil for 10 days and feel that it's marginally helpful in pain reduction. I know that marijuana (THC & CBD) is much more effective for me but alas, medical marijuana is not yet legal in WI.
If I can recommend anything, it would be that you try to be seen at Mayo with the intention of qualifying for their 3-week pain rehab program. They will help you come off the morphine. Actually, I titrated down and off my morphine under the supervision of my pain MD prior to going to Mayo. I did not find it difficult to get off the morphine because I did it slowly under the advisement of my doctor. Even if you don't do Mayo's Pain Rehab program, I would advise you not to stop the morphine on your own. Do it under a doctor's supervision and it will go much smoother!
I was, and still am, amazed that I no longer use any opiates! I do not feel any worse for it, in fact, it has given me my life back! If you can wean yourself off the morphine first, before trying CBD oil, that would be the best course, I think.
Here is the link to Mayo's Pain Rehab Center as well as a link to stories from patients who completed pain rehab at Mayo:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/pain-rehabilitation-center/services
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/pain-rehabilitation-center/patient-stories
I wish you all the best!

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@elsa meet @konniemiller Hi Elsa! I am happy to hear that you had such good success at the Pain Rehab Center, and even more glad that you are now free of opiates. Konnie is about to enter that rehab center as well and wanted to converse with someone who has been there. Would you mind chatting with her about your experience there? Thank you so much in advance. I wish you continued success!

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | May 1, 2020
In reply to @elsa "I'm a 64 year old woman who had been taking morphine (anywhere from 60-120mg/day) and hydrocodone..." + (show)
@elsa

I'm a 64 year old woman who had been taking morphine (anywhere from 60-120mg/day) and hydrocodone (up to [3] 5/325/day) for 8 years. In March of 2018 I went through Mayo's Pain Rehabilitation 3-week program. It was the best thing I ever did for my pain! I was able to get off the opiates as well as 2 benzodiazepines (for anxiety) and methylphenidate (an ADD drug). My pain is fairly severe, ranging from a "2" on a very good morning, to an "8/9" on bad days. I now manage my pain through exercise, mindfulness, diaphragmatic breathing, and distraction. Also I still take 1800mg of gabapentin/day.
Recently I tried CBD oil for 10 days and feel that it's marginally helpful in pain reduction. I know that marijuana (THC & CBD) is much more effective for me but alas, medical marijuana is not yet legal in WI.
If I can recommend anything, it would be that you try to be seen at Mayo with the intention of qualifying for their 3-week pain rehab program. They will help you come off the morphine. Actually, I titrated down and off my morphine under the supervision of my pain MD prior to going to Mayo. I did not find it difficult to get off the morphine because I did it slowly under the advisement of my doctor. Even if you don't do Mayo's Pain Rehab program, I would advise you not to stop the morphine on your own. Do it under a doctor's supervision and it will go much smoother!
I was, and still am, amazed that I no longer use any opiates! I do not feel any worse for it, in fact, it has given me my life back! If you can wean yourself off the morphine first, before trying CBD oil, that would be the best course, I think.
Here is the link to Mayo's Pain Rehab Center as well as a link to stories from patients who completed pain rehab at Mayo:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/pain-rehabilitation-center/services
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/pain-rehabilitation-center/patient-stories
I wish you all the best!

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@konniemiller Hi Konnie. I copied
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/pain-rehabilitation-center/services
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/pain-rehabilitation-center/patient-stories these two links for you from @elsa's post. I hope it helps.

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jmb73 | @jmb73 | May 8, 2020

I have been using Medical marijuana for 2 years and it has made a huge difference in my life. I was told to start low and slow. I started with .5cc of CBD but had to increase it to .7cc of CBD and .3cc of THC as the pain has gotten worse. The THC makes me sleepy but pain free. I had Gamma brain surgery a year ago and got a terrible headache when the helmet was taken off. The nurse told me to take 2cc of CBD and it took the pain and nausea away. The nurse said that you can't OD on CBD. I was told to take it before I eat and I take it 3 times a day. I have severe arthritis in my spinal column and all my joints, fibromyalgia, Sjogrens AFIB, asthma, interstitial lung disease and a low immune system. I am in constant pain without the marijuana. All my doctors know I am on medical marijuana. My cardiologist and most of my other specialists approve of my taking it. My PC isn't happy with it but admits she doesn't know much about it. My understanding is you don't get addicted to CBD but can to THC. My husband has severe neuropathy and has started taking .5cc of CBD and .2cc of THC and now sleeps at night. I hope this helps you. Stay safe.

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