@fireball59 let me know exactly what they end up doing and if it helps the pain and when. I guess my wall is in constant spasm as it wont let go of the pain, or bring it down some. Most nerves are ablated back where they come out of the spine and then around to innervate the ab wall, muscles, organs etc. I see some bigger clinics in chicago, cleveland clinic, NY and others state they ablate most nerves like superior hypogastric plexus, splanchnic, intercostal, thoracic. I also need them to find the nerve complex that is causing so ablation can be tried.