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Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse?

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Hi all! My husband is a pharmacist, got a DUI in 2014, went to rehab, lost his pharmacy license for a year, and has been doing monthly random drug testing since. His drug testing program swapped to USDTL roughly a year ago and they began PETH testing. He has always had NEGATIVE results until March 2020, with a positive PETH finger prick. He was required to use hand sanitizer prior to entering the facility due to covid. They did not have him wash his hands. The results came back as 127. The hand sanitizer used an ethanol based hand sanitizer, but the USDTL contact aka “the expert” says there is no way this affected his result. We paid the extra $250 for a retest which was also positive and only 54. They let him in the second chance program due to no prior positive tests and now has to randomly test 2x per month costing us $750 a month. Well, today he got a call stating his PETH finger prick was again positive at 52. They refuse to do a nail test saying that a negative nail test (even though it goes back 3 months) will not invalidate the PETH test, even though the previous test was PETH and hair etg, both negative. We now have to pay $800 for a lie detector test. This is absolutely insane. USDTL will not talk to customers, only collection sites. He was just off for the entire week prior to the test, so basically they are telling me that during our staycation with our 3 kids my husband was drinking everyday. Local contacts are not helpful. I am 100% sure my husband is not drinking. His program was ending in August, so I find it convenient that now he is having issues when he has done the 5 years of required testing after rehab and per the board of pharmacy. With a second positive test he is facing losing is pharmacy license and possible rehab again. It is like they want to stress him out so maybe he will drink. The PETH test cannot be accurate. I don’t believe all of these people can have this many false positives. He also knows a guy that has also had 2 false positives with PETH. They are trying to ruin people’s lives.

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Hello @slw2227282, Welcome to Connect. It's hard to believe how the PETH test can be still be used after so much attention and false positives. Hopefully, something can be done.

@toolsd posted an article that might be helpful in an earlier post and may be able to offer more suggestions or help.

Recently written by Dr Skipper.
https://www.centerforprofessionalrecovery.com/specificity-of-phosphatidylethanol-as-a-marker-for-alcoholic-beverage-consumption/
@mllangan1 aslo shared an article in an earlier post and may have other information or suggestions.

Phosphatidylethanol: The Potential Role in Further Evaluating Low Positive Urinary Ethyl Glucuronide and Ethyl Sulfate Results:
https://cdn.prod-carehubs.net/n1/748e8fe697af5de8/uploads/2020/02/PEth-Article-in-ACER.pdf
@slw2227282 is your husband going to any support meetings where he may be able to talk with other people that had similar experiences?

I had to contact a lawyer for my case. I had the same situation zero positives in almost 3 years and had the finger prick test come back 274. Have not had a sip of alcohol in that timeframe. There is a serious issue with this PEth blood spot testing method and am hoping it is brought forward. The lawyer I am working with is actually working with a very similar case as mine with USDTL and the same contact you are most likely referring to.

Join the club. Its a corrupt system and USDTL is the only lab that does peth testing so they have a monopoly on the testing. Its not that peth testing is faulty or not faulty, its that peth testing is too accurate meaning it picks up every little piece of alcohol that you are exposed to, yes even sanitizer. Even breathing in alcohol causes peth. The so called experts say that sanitizer doesn't affect it but they are lying and they know it does. If this test were to be proven ineffective for drug monitoring, they would lose a major cash cow not to mention be hugely liable for peoples lives and careers that were ruined. The more of us that are involved the better.