What kind of mobility can I expect with an antibiotic spacer in my hip

Posted by mrfish @mrfish, Nov 3, 2017

About 11 months ago, I had a total (right) hip replacement. No injuries led me to the decision to undergo that, just arthritic pain that had become gradually worse over 20+ years. Several months after the surgery, I developed an infection at the joint but it took a while to get that properly diagnosed. So, in less than two weeks I'll undergo the first of the two surgeries/stages to elminate the infection and replace the implant. I've read that the antibiotic spacer I'll have for 2-3 months will provide "limited mobility" but I'm struggling with what that really means. I'd apperciate any further information I can get from others who have undergone this same procedure. I expect 2-3 days of hospitalization following the surgery and IV antibiotic infusions several times a day (self-administered).

I'm an (otherwise) healthy 48yo male and I was very happy with how quickly I was able to bounce back from the original hip replacment. I'm sure there will be a week or so of recovery from the surgery itself -- but after that am I going to be mostly home-bound for the interim, or is driving myself and working in an office setting (on a limited schedule) a possibility? What other aspects are there to living for a with a hip spacer?

Thank you in advance for your help on this,
Art in Alaska.

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Many thanks for your reply and posting. Hopefully all will turn out well. I'll keep you and everyone else posted! Brian

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Wow and here I thought I was alone... Since August of 2017 Ive had 8 hip surgeries. 5 Hip replacements. 4 Hip spacers. 4 PICC Lines. The 5th hip was looking good then after the 10th day a hematoma bursted and of course I got sepsis. 104.5 temp is no fun. On March 4th 2019, they removed my 5th hip and decided I needed a year off. So I have no left hip at all and can walk somewhat with a 3 inch lift on the bottom of my left shoe. The ups and downs are not fun. I have almost normal blood work. CRP 11 sed is 40. They check me monthly and monthly the number decrease. I feel somewhat normal at the moment. I was always fatigued with the infections. Plus the Vanco twice a day is no fun. All we can do is fight the good fight.

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@skidly

Wow and here I thought I was alone... Since August of 2017 Ive had 8 hip surgeries. 5 Hip replacements. 4 Hip spacers. 4 PICC Lines. The 5th hip was looking good then after the 10th day a hematoma bursted and of course I got sepsis. 104.5 temp is no fun. On March 4th 2019, they removed my 5th hip and decided I needed a year off. So I have no left hip at all and can walk somewhat with a 3 inch lift on the bottom of my left shoe. The ups and downs are not fun. I have almost normal blood work. CRP 11 sed is 40. They check me monthly and monthly the number decrease. I feel somewhat normal at the moment. I was always fatigued with the infections. Plus the Vanco twice a day is no fun. All we can do is fight the good fight.

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I forgot to mention. My troubles all started with my 1st hip replacement... Have a look at the Xray taken the day they removed my staples. No wander I was in so much pain. Also every time I put on my shoe Lift I hear the theme song form the MUNSTERS play in my head LOL Did anybody else grow SEROMAS like mine?? See Pic.

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@briank1958

That other appointment with the head of the department, a 60 year old surgeon, is on 6/26. Both surgeons are extremely qualified but the older gentlemen has been around the block a few more times. As I am trying to gain a little more perspective on both flavors of the surgery I guess my end goal is to feel better about the 2-stage process and get a little more than a hint of living with the spacer for 4 to 8 weeks. Quite frankly, reading everyone's posts is a little scary. Not from the idea of living with the spacer but that, in their case, the infection keeps coming back. Yikes!!! From what I have read there is a 15% chance that will happen, even under the best of circumstances. Many thanks for all your kind words and the huge amount of confidence you have thrusted upon me. Of course I will keep you posted! Brian

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@briank1958 I hear you! I am a mentor and I almost quit this group as I was approaching my TKR date because it was so scary reading about the potential problems. I'm glad I stayed! Just remember, most people come on here with big hearts and hopes - trying to get information about problems they are experiencing. It's kind of rare to read about someone saying how well things went and how easy their recovery has been. (I wish they would!) I believe there are two reasons they don't. First, they are busy doing their lives and they don't login; and second, they don't want to "brag" and make people who aren't doing so well feel like they are behind. So... I'm counting on you to log back in and tell us how well your visit goes on 6/26 and what terrific results you get. I'm pulling for you.

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@briank1958

My situation is not unlike many of those that I have read in this forum. With that being said I am looking for some specific answers that I have yet to receive from my surgeon. First, my situation is that I have gone through 11 surgeries. On the orthopedic side I have had a knee replaced, both hips replaced and a joint on a big toe replaced. All of the replacements are made of surgical grade titanium. In addition I've had 4 spinal fusions so I am fused from the L1 thru the L5. My problems started in the spring of 2018 with 2 staph bacteria's and MRSA. It is not known at this time where I picked up the bacteria. They tell me it could have laid dormant in my left hip since 2007 but this can't be verified.

In the early part of last summer they put me in the hospital for a week and sent me home with a PICC line for another 6 weeks of antibiotics. Cultures showed everything was good by August 1st. By mid-October I became delusional, delirious and despondent (the 3 D's as I call them). They rechecked my blood with cultures and found massive amounts of staff and MRSA. They checked my hardware in my back and found it to be positive as well. My only option was to have all the hardware removed. I spent 2 months in the hospital and another 2 weeks in a rehab center. I came home right at Christmas this past year.

My rehab at home went well as I was relearning how to walk but by the end of February I started to get pains in my left hip. 2 doctors told me it was probably bursitis from all the PT I was doing. Wrong! My infectious disease doctor did more cultures and I had an aspiration done on the hip. By early April my back was now getting sore. What I have been told now is that my left prosthetic hip and my psoas muscles are now infected with the same bacteria as I had before. They say my only option is to have the left rip replaced and drains put in. The 1st surgeon I saw said he would only do a 2-stage replacement with a cement, antibiotic-laden spacer. The length of this spacer being in my hip is still not known. My surgeon won't even consider a 1-stage replacement because of the MRSA. The 1st of the stages is scheduled on July 11th. I do have an appt. with a much older, and hopefully more experienced surgeon from the same group towards the end of this month to get a second opinion to see if he might consider the less-invasion 1-stage replacement.

The questions I am putting out here are 1) Does anyone have any personal information on the success rate of the 1-stage replacement? Studies I've found on the internet show only a slightly less success rate for the 1-stage replacement. 2) I am obviously not new to surgeries but I am new to this 2-stage procedure. Just how bad is it? 3) Will I be able to get around the house on my own, I.E. going to the bathroom and going up stairs with the spacer in my hip?

My infectious disease Dr. says that the staph and MRSA bacteria that is in my body is a very mutated and antibiotic resistent strain and is going to be very hard to irradicate thoroughly and completely. He also says the likelihood of it ending up back in the same hip or any of the other 3 prostetic joints is not only possilbe but at this time is probable. This is despite the replacement of my left hip, being on Vancomycin both in the hosital and going home with a PICC line and even being on an oral antibiotic for the rest of my life. My problems with this are seemingly endless.

Hopefully someone can answer a few of my questions and can offer some pertinent advise. Many thanks to all who respond!

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Gosh, things have been busy since I last visited!

@briank1958 I am sorry to hear of your journey through this. I had MRSA then E-Coli. I understand MRSA lives on the skin and my Infectious Doctor told me E-Coli lives in everyone's stomach and tends to be attracted by 'interlopers' in the body, ie, protheses. I son't know about other infections ... and it seems neither to the specialists ... it is one of those mysteries!

I have no personal knowledge of 1 Stage Revision but I have read they are not as successful as 2 Stage. I believe this is because the body needs time following a debridement/washout before new hardware is put back in being treated with antibiotics.

I had a THR in December 2014 and a TKR in March 2018. When my Surgeon went in to do a hip revision in October 2018 infection was discovered. He debrided, implanted a Spacer and I was on antibiotics for nearly 5 months. I was on no weight bearing as I have Osteoporosis, Through all my problems I lost over 50lbs and was down to 112lbs with muscle atrophy. I had a 5cm/2in shortness of the leg and it was difficult even with a walker. In March just past I had my 2nd Stage Revision, a larger ball and a 30cm stem installed reducing the LLD. I was house/bedbound for 18 months and am now learning to walk again, migrating from walker to elbow crutches. Yesterday I received news my blood levels are within;limits and I don't have to see my Surgeon for three months ... unless I feel I need to.

The whole thing about this journey is to keep positive.

@skidly, wow you cram in a lot in a short period of time, don't you? I am not a medical expert ... but 8 ops, 5 replacements and 4 spacers in 18 months is mind boggling and it would seem to me that not enough time was given in between for the infections to clear your system so they promptly attached themselves to the new hardware. Just my opinion. After my Spacer was placed I had blood tests every two weeks till I was clear (from October to February) then I had to have two clear readings before Stage 2 would be done. What country are you in? I am in Portugal.

@linjane "My infection has returned (yet) since I've had my spacer. So far I'm in the 85%. The infections were before the 2 stage." ?????

Izabel

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@debbraw

@briank1958 I hear you! I am a mentor and I almost quit this group as I was approaching my TKR date because it was so scary reading about the potential problems. I'm glad I stayed! Just remember, most people come on here with big hearts and hopes - trying to get information about problems they are experiencing. It's kind of rare to read about someone saying how well things went and how easy their recovery has been. (I wish they would!) I believe there are two reasons they don't. First, they are busy doing their lives and they don't login; and second, they don't want to "brag" and make people who aren't doing so well feel like they are behind. So... I'm counting on you to log back in and tell us how well your visit goes on 6/26 and what terrific results you get. I'm pulling for you.

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I’m responding to the request for comments on tkr’s that have gone well. I wasn’t on Mayo Connect before my surgery in 2013 and had no idea of the possible complications. I had cortisone shots for maybe 3 years prior and tried the gel shots until nothing was helping anymore. My recovery was uneventful with gradual relief from pain, swelling, etc. The doctor said I have optimum results with full rom and I’ve told him that it’s the best thing I’ve done. Since then I’ve also had a kidney transplant which also fits into that category. I have to be honest... if I was aware of all of the possible problems I’ve read about here, it would have scared me to death.

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@cmael

I’m responding to the request for comments on tkr’s that have gone well. I wasn’t on Mayo Connect before my surgery in 2013 and had no idea of the possible complications. I had cortisone shots for maybe 3 years prior and tried the gel shots until nothing was helping anymore. My recovery was uneventful with gradual relief from pain, swelling, etc. The doctor said I have optimum results with full rom and I’ve told him that it’s the best thing I’ve done. Since then I’ve also had a kidney transplant which also fits into that category. I have to be honest... if I was aware of all of the possible problems I’ve read about here, it would have scared me to death.

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@cmael I could almost have written your post, except I have had a liver transplant, not kidney. I also did cortisone and then Synvisc until they were not helping much. I have had two TKRs. Both went well, I only wish my flexion was a little better. One is about 125, but the other is under 120. I can live with that though, and I can do pretty much everything I want to do. Kneeling is tough.
I agree though, had I read all of the problems many people have had, I may have been more reluctant to have a knee replacement, particularly on my second knee. I was limping badly and in pain 24/7 on my right leg before my TKR but I had exercised a lot and added strength to the muscles around my knee before the L TKR so I was not in a lot of pain most of the time. A doctor friend of ours tried to talk me out of having the surgery but I went ahead and did it, and have no regrets at all, thankfully.
JK

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@kanaazpereira

Hello @mrfish,

Welcome to Connect. thank you so much for sharing your information; we're glad you've joined us.

We have a few discussions on Connect where members have talked about total hip replacement, infection and spacers:
– Walking without a hip joint https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/walking-without-a-hip-joint/
– End of stem pain after total hip replacement https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/end-of-stem-pain-after-total-hip-replacement/
– THR, Anterior Approach - 3 week mark https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/thr-anterior-approach-3-week-mark/

@kenman @geek_girl @lynzze @hip2012 @mnpat @grandmacheryl @popolopo @sma1952 @leigh60 @amber67, would you join me in welcoming @mrfish, and share your experiences?

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I wonder if spacer in knee replacement patients, are you all having pain? I had spacer infection treatment in sept 2018, still having pain.

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@briank1958

My situation is not unlike many of those that I have read in this forum. With that being said I am looking for some specific answers that I have yet to receive from my surgeon. First, my situation is that I have gone through 11 surgeries. On the orthopedic side I have had a knee replaced, both hips replaced and a joint on a big toe replaced. All of the replacements are made of surgical grade titanium. In addition I've had 4 spinal fusions so I am fused from the L1 thru the L5. My problems started in the spring of 2018 with 2 staph bacteria's and MRSA. It is not known at this time where I picked up the bacteria. They tell me it could have laid dormant in my left hip since 2007 but this can't be verified.

In the early part of last summer they put me in the hospital for a week and sent me home with a PICC line for another 6 weeks of antibiotics. Cultures showed everything was good by August 1st. By mid-October I became delusional, delirious and despondent (the 3 D's as I call them). They rechecked my blood with cultures and found massive amounts of staff and MRSA. They checked my hardware in my back and found it to be positive as well. My only option was to have all the hardware removed. I spent 2 months in the hospital and another 2 weeks in a rehab center. I came home right at Christmas this past year.

My rehab at home went well as I was relearning how to walk but by the end of February I started to get pains in my left hip. 2 doctors told me it was probably bursitis from all the PT I was doing. Wrong! My infectious disease doctor did more cultures and I had an aspiration done on the hip. By early April my back was now getting sore. What I have been told now is that my left prosthetic hip and my psoas muscles are now infected with the same bacteria as I had before. They say my only option is to have the left rip replaced and drains put in. The 1st surgeon I saw said he would only do a 2-stage replacement with a cement, antibiotic-laden spacer. The length of this spacer being in my hip is still not known. My surgeon won't even consider a 1-stage replacement because of the MRSA. The 1st of the stages is scheduled on July 11th. I do have an appt. with a much older, and hopefully more experienced surgeon from the same group towards the end of this month to get a second opinion to see if he might consider the less-invasion 1-stage replacement.

The questions I am putting out here are 1) Does anyone have any personal information on the success rate of the 1-stage replacement? Studies I've found on the internet show only a slightly less success rate for the 1-stage replacement. 2) I am obviously not new to surgeries but I am new to this 2-stage procedure. Just how bad is it? 3) Will I be able to get around the house on my own, I.E. going to the bathroom and going up stairs with the spacer in my hip?

My infectious disease Dr. says that the staph and MRSA bacteria that is in my body is a very mutated and antibiotic resistent strain and is going to be very hard to irradicate thoroughly and completely. He also says the likelihood of it ending up back in the same hip or any of the other 3 prostetic joints is not only possilbe but at this time is probable. This is despite the replacement of my left hip, being on Vancomycin both in the hosital and going home with a PICC line and even being on an oral antibiotic for the rest of my life. My problems with this are seemingly endless.

Hopefully someone can answer a few of my questions and can offer some pertinent advise. Many thanks to all who respond!

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@briank1958, welcome. My 2-stage revision wasn't successful, but I think the main reason it failed was because they didn't have a positive culture to know, specifically, what kind of bug was causing the infection. My understanding is that 1-stage revisions and washouts are most successful if they catch the infection very early (my ortho was talking in terms of just a few days to a week as "early"). Another thing that I'd recommend if you go the 2-stage route is to try to keep the spacer in for as long as you can to increase your chances of success. I had mine in for three months and it was taken out just as soon as my blood numbers came down and the surgery could be scheduled. I think it might have been better to have more time with the numbers down and staying down before the 2nd stage. I was miserable with the spacer and couldn't wait to get it out and I let that override the recommendations of others to try to hang in there a little longer.
My mobility with the spacer was very limited. I could only get with a walker and stairs were a real challenge (but do-able). Showers needed a bench/chair and help. There is a tremendous amount of popping and grinding in the joint which is painful and unsettling in the beginning, but does improve somewhat. I was only able to sleep on my back (a reclining chair worked the best and was where I slept most of the time).
It wasn't until after my failed 2nd stage revision and then a wash-out that they finally were able to culture which strain of staph was causing my infection. I haven't been able to regain my full range of motion, but it's pretty close to full use of my hip (90%). I think all the scar tissue from the surgeries is what limits full flexibility.

It's been a year (today!) since I completed the last of my antibiotic meds. There were some real low lows along the way, but I'm feeling good.

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@cmael

I’m responding to the request for comments on tkr’s that have gone well. I wasn’t on Mayo Connect before my surgery in 2013 and had no idea of the possible complications. I had cortisone shots for maybe 3 years prior and tried the gel shots until nothing was helping anymore. My recovery was uneventful with gradual relief from pain, swelling, etc. The doctor said I have optimum results with full rom and I’ve told him that it’s the best thing I’ve done. Since then I’ve also had a kidney transplant which also fits into that category. I have to be honest... if I was aware of all of the possible problems I’ve read about here, it would have scared me to death.

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Hi @cmael - I am so happy to hear about your good results with the TKR. I imagine there are a number of us out here that have done well with the joint replacements and feel happy we did it. Did you just have one bad knee or both? I had TKRs for both - the right in 2017 and the left this year (2019). Glad I did it and also glad both recoveries are behind me!

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