@becsbuddy- It's never just one thing is it? I've had broken ribs and they aren't any fun. I have a funny story, at least looking back it is. After my first lobectomy I was not told that one of my ribs broke as a result of the rib spreader. That was in October. In November I picked up the turkey in my arms and , ta da, re-broke it again! I needed Xrays because my Dr. thought that my lung collapsed. But the rib broke a second time because of a damn turkey. lol