@invisiblepain2 Believe me, I've always found another doctor when something was not right. This is why I have seen more than 30 doctors in the past three years. People on the outside of this level of pretend care do not understand what the average American has to go through to get through their year.

I saw a Doctor of Osteopathic (DO) medicine last week. He gave up while my wife and I were still there. He gave me the name of a spine surgeon that works with scoliosis issues, and I have an appointment with this new doctor next week.

I have not tried cold water, but one of the physical therapists that worked on my side a couple of months ago had a frozen, what looked like a steel ball, in a plastic base. She held it by the plastic and pressed the ball on my side. There is no way I could do this, as soon as she touched my skin with it my entire core locked up. We went with heat after that.