@allegheny Thank you for your reply. I will look up the ankle brace you provided. My first ankle/foot doc ordered me a custom fit brace based on a mold he took of ankle. It was a disaster. It fit and worked as long as i did not wear shoes. Had to jump shoe size 2 sizes to fit over brace. Stuck that in back of closet. My present doc is suggesting braces that have metal bars up to a knee connection. The hell with that for now. So some online stuff i ordered does give me a bit more stability. Its a daily search for something that works for pain and balance issues. And the scams and junk out there are just unbelievable. So persevere we must. Thank again for info.