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@dks2500 , I know, but there is a lot of evidence that Gem/Doce works well. A very large study whose name I forget is in progress.
I am pleased that thanks to Vesta, I was not put on BCG, which would have been a waste of time. Gem/Doce treatment is no big deal with few if any side effects and so far is working for me.
Best regards.

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@gemdoc25 I’m very happy that Gem/Doce is working well for you. Best wishes going forward.