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Is hormone therapy necessary with radiation?

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All,
I asked a somewhat similar question in a different thread that discussed the Kwon approach of waiting for treatment until a met shows up in a PMSA PET scan. Much of the discussion there is recounted in this thread, with some helpful additions here. I will repeat one point I made that is relevant to those with aggressive pathology and very high Decipher scores:

On the question of "who benefits from ADT and is it worth the side effects"? I just had an appointment with my RO at Johns Hopkins where he considered whether to add ADT to SRT. (Short story: I had RALP in 9/25; PSA still low but rising; aggressive cancer (IDC, Cribriform, EPE, Decipher .89, but clean margins and clean pre-surgery PET). The determining factor for him to add ADT was the detailed report that accompanied the Decipher one page summary. It showed I had Luminal B, an aggressive subgroup. The trial (which has not yet been peer reviewed) NRG GU006 (BALANCE) showed a clear benefit of adding apalutamide to SRT. If you have a high Decipher score, ask your doctor to get the detailed report that accompanies the one page summary. You can also google "NRG GU006 (BALANCE) and Luminal B" to see a discussion of the study.
Subsequent MRI and PET scans confirmed 2 pelvic nodes, so now the question for me is, in addition to SRT, which drug(s) will I get and for how long? This will be answered on 6/16 during an appointment with my MO.

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@bikeman1
The quick return of a rising PSA after a prostatectomy and all of the aggressive features found in your prostate cancer make ADT really essential,

You can say no, But it will almost definitely result in reoccurrence sooner, rather than later.

Unfortunately, you are not among the group that can safely have salvage radiation without ADT.

Are you prepared for that? Are you really questioning it at this point?

I’ve been on ADT for eight years, it is one of the reasons I’m still alive.

@bikeman1 Thanks for your post Bikeman. Very interesting. Best wishes.